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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Gary Dotson » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:27 am

Radioguy, that's the appropriate illustration. The bead lock feature is there as a safety against sudden deflation. The tire should seal without it. I'm not recommending installing them tubeless, just saying you can. All my older tractors have tubes in the tires. My Kubota tractors were factory equipped with tubeless tires with no bead locks on the rims. Due to punctures, I now have tubes in all the fronts, the rears are all still tubeless.

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Matt Kirsch » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm

Tubeless is possible, though in my experience it requires about two tubes of silicone. That's about how much I found gobbered on the beads of the front rims of my '68 when I went to swap out the Renault LeCar tires for traditional tri-ribs.

I put them back with tubes.

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Snuffdipper » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:48 pm

Ok got tires today they are tube tires so I’ll buy tubes and install myself
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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:21 pm

Matt Kirsch wrote:Tubeless is possible, though in my experience it requires about two tubes of silicone. That's about how much I found gobbered on the beads of the front rims of my '68 when I went to swap out the Renault LeCar tires for traditional tri-ribs.

I put them back with tubes.

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Glen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:37 pm

Hi,
Be careful when putting a tire with a tube on the rim. Don't pinch the new tube between the rim and the tire tool, it can cut the tube.
Sometimes it works better to inflate the tube some, after putting it in the tire, so it stays out of the way, partly filling the inside of the tire, instead of laying down by the rim.
You can only inflate it a certain amount, or it will keep the tire too big.

After installing the tire and tube, and inflating it to 30 or so lbs, deflate it again fully, all air that will come out, then inflate it again.
The tube can have folds in it the first time it is inflated, from places of it being in the wrong position.
The tube can fail in time at the folds, they can be sharp bends in the material.
Deflating it helps it move around in the tire, and hopefully not have folds when inflated again.
Don't lose the valve in the wheel when it is deflated. :)

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Snuffdipper » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:49 pm

What color was the front rim from factory. It’s a 79 Ih cub yellow and white. I know the rear was silver with white in middle. I’m thinking might be hard to do silver and white on front rim. Thinking I’ll just go all white with it
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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:50 pm

OK, back to the side discussion of rim design. Check out the rim in this picture and identify it as tube type or tubeless. I'll post back after a while with the original application and tire type.
safetyRim.jpg

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:52 pm

Snuffdipper wrote:What color was the front rim from factory. It’s a 79 Ih cub yellow and white. I know the rear was silver with white in middle. I’m thinking might be hard to do silver and white on front rim. Thinking I’ll just go all white with it

It was originally all white. The yellow hub could be seen at the center.

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Snuffdipper » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:58 pm

Awesome! All white will be a lot easier to paint
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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Glen » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:07 pm

Hi,
TM Tractor has spray cans of Case IH white paint, I don't know if it is the same as the Cubs had, probably, but maybe someone that knows will say.
You can look at the pics.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/sp/935fp.htm

They have yellow too.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/sp/705fp.htm

Case IH dealers sell it also. :)

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Snuffdipper » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:10 pm

I bought majic paint cub cadet yellow and Ih white. The white looks great. The yellow might be a little off but still looks decent. Tractor looks a lot better than it did
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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Gary S. » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:46 pm

So as I'm speeding around the property cutting grass never getting out of 2nd what should I be more worried about- tubeless tires on non beaded rims or the fact that the rears are 61 years old...... :surrender:

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Bill V in Md » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:30 pm

Jim Becker wrote:OK, back to the side discussion of rim design. Check out the rim in this picture and identify it as tube type or tubeless. I'll post back after a while with the original application and tire type.
safetyRim.jpg

I don’t see a bead lock or safety rib on the rim, so I would guess this rim is a tubed tire rim.
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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby tnestell » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:19 am

Jim Becker wrote:OK, back to the side discussion of rim design. Check out the rim in this picture and identify it as tube type or tubeless. I'll post back after a while with the original application and tire type.
safetyRim.jpg

Looks to me that that rim requires a tube. It is not look like a safety rim to me.
Last edited by tnestell on Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:10 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Front cub tires?

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:31 am

It has the safety bead on the short side. I have no idea of the application but my guess is that it was tubeless.


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