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Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Clemsonfor » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:15 pm

I was messing around on eBay and wondered if anyone has used these before and think there worth it and work?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254019212022

I also saw they have these tubes that you put in the fuel tank like a lot of more modern mowers and things will have in the tank. It's a strainer and also a stand pipe which allows it to pull fuel from above the bottom of the tank avoiding all the crud that could be on the bottom.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/223427692351

The fine mesh screen in the top of the bowl I would think would keep anything out?

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Glen » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:03 pm

The 1st item you posted, It looks like the gas strainer bowl in the pic is longer than Cubs use.

Some models of tractors bigger than Cubs have a longer gas strainer bowl.

The filter may be too big, or long, to fit in the Cub bowl.

The original style screen in the strainer works ok, if the gas tank is mostly clean. My opinion. :)

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby staninlowerAL » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:22 pm

Check out the HOW TO subforum and you will find several posts on the in-tank filter as well as other solutions to contaminated tank problems. There's also a wealth of other info/experiences there that's been shared by members over the years.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Peter Person » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:56 pm

The 2nd one is similar to what Bill Hudson came up with using a Ford part.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=98978

My son is going to put one of these in his fuel tank.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:10 am

I've used both types, the filter in your first link, I did not use in a Cub but in something automotive, I don't remember what it was. I think I may still have a couple of them, I'll see if it fits the Cub bowl. The one in your second link is carried by Steiner and other suppliers. I've installed a couple of them. The fit was too loose but easily fixed with a few dots of solder. I like those pretty well.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:53 am

Gary Dotson wrote:I've used both types, the filter in your first link, I did not use in a Cub but in something automotive, I don't remember what it was. I think I may still have a couple of them, I'll see if it fits the Cub bowl. The one in your second link is carried by Steiner and other suppliers. I've installed a couple of them. The fit was too loose but easily fixed with a few dots of solder. I like those pretty well.

Thanks. I was thinking the second one without something to kind of lock it in place would fit a bit loose and stuff may work by it anyway.

That would be neat if you had the first type and could see if it would fit in a Cub bowl.

I don't really think I need either cause my tank looks pretty clean to me, but I think filters are a good thing.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:08 am

When I get out to the shop, after a bit, I'll see if I still have some of those. Years ago, I bought the equipment and inventory of a closed up Texaco gas station, some of those filters were among the stash. A couple different styles, as I remember.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby inairam » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:35 am

The sediment bolt is suppose to have a fine screen at the top. http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/235fp.htm

Between the filter and the bowl the carborated is protected in my opinion.

I looked at the in tank filter and purchased it but it is loose so it has to be epoxied and I think it would raise the level inside the tank of the infeed to the bowl. I decided not to do it.
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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:59 am

1947 to 1979 if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Just keep your gas cans and spout clean.
If you have a rusty gas tank you can use red cote or something similar.
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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:20 pm

Mike those are really my thoughts. Between the bowl the fine mesh at the top of the bowl and there is supposed to be a screen on the inlet. It should be enough unless your tank is just nasty.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:24 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:
Gary Dotson wrote:... The fit was too loose but easily fixed with a few dots of solder. I like those pretty well.

Thanks. I was thinking the second one without something to kind of lock it in place would fit a bit loose and stuff may work by it anyway.


Peter Person wrote:The 2nd one is similar to what Bill Hudson came up with using a Ford part.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=98978

My son is going to put one of these in his fuel tank.

Peter


Check out the link Peter gave you and your concern about fitting is addressed also.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby inairam » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:01 pm

What I decided I did not like:

1) that you lost some tank capacity. See the black lines that is about how much you tank capacity you lose..

2) also the carp stays in the gas tank instead of the sediment bowl. It is easy to clean out the sediment bowl not so much carp in the tank.

As much as I love this site, this is one fix/upgrade I just do not buy into. I just do not think it is fixing a problem. The sediment bowl and filter work well.
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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:34 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:
Clemsonfor wrote:
Gary Dotson wrote:... The fit was too loose but easily fixed with a few dots of solder. I like those pretty well.

Thanks. I was thinking the second one without something to kind of lock it in place would fit a bit loose and stuff may work by it anyway.


Peter Person wrote:The 2nd one is similar to what Bill Hudson came up with using a Ford part.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=98978

My son is going to put one of these in his fuel tank.

Peter


Check out the link Peter gave you and your concern about fitting is addressed also.

Bill

I read it as soon as it was posted. I'm talking about someone just dropping it in the tank.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:37 pm

inairam wrote:What I decided I did not like:

1) that you lost some tank capacity. See the black lines that is about how much you tank capacity you lose..

2) also the carp stays in the gas tank instead of the sediment bowl. It is easy to clean out the sediment bowl not so much carp in the tank.

As much as I love this site, this is one fix/upgrade I just do not buy into. I just do not think it is fixing a problem. The sediment bowl and filter work well.

I don't think that's that much capacity. But I do agree your loosening some. Also if one was worried about stuff in the tank, you can drain it and let it dry and suck it out with a flexible tube for your shop vac. May have to reduce it down to 3/8 fuel line or 3/4 heater hose but is doable.

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Re: Fuel filter for sediment bowl.

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:12 pm

Bill Hudson wrote:
inairam wrote:What I decided I did not like:

1) that you lost some tank capacity. See the black lines that is about how much you tank capacity you lose..

2) also the carp stays in the gas tank instead of the sediment bowl. It is easy to clean out the sediment bowl not so much carp in the tank.

As much as I love this site, this is one fix/upgrade I just do not buy into. I just do not think it is fixing a problem. The sediment bowl and filter work well.


I, too, don't like loosing tank capacity. Check out my narrative with the pics and you will see that your black lines for lost tank capacity are not nearly correct. Your bottom line is where I cut off the top of the sediment bowl and you top line is nearly where the top of the sediment bowl originally existed. Tomorrow, I'll go out and measure the difference in length of the material I cut off the sediment bowl and the length of collar on the filter, I'm confident they are not the same. However the difference is not nearly the distance you show between the black lines. I just went to the Cubhouse and measured (using digital calipers) two sediment bowls for the length of material I cut off .42" and .41" for an average of .415". I also measured three of the filter collars, using the same calipers .46", .48" and .47" for an average of .47". Yes, I reduced the effective tank capacity by .055". Less than 1/16", probably less than the thickness of the top black line.

I will grant your #2 point, but this modification solved the problem I was fixing.

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