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Anyone ever killed their cub?
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Anyone ever killed their cub?
So no I haven't damaged any of my cubs, I am just curious if anyone here has blown an engine or wrecked a transmission or had any other catastrophic failures? Intentionally killing one that's beyond repair dosen't count. I am just curious how tough these things are? How far have people pushed them and if they killed them what did it? I have no intention of overloading or running my cub too hard but I am sure some have before. I have strange curiosities I guess, these things seem tough as nails honestly.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
The two most common failures due to owner neglect or abuse are probably:
- Plain water or inadequate antifreeze allowed to freeze damaging the front bolster, cylinder head or engine block.
- Chaining to the front axle to tow it and breaking the engine block and/or front bolster.
Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver. Most other failures are probably due to bad luck or things that just wear out.
- Plain water or inadequate antifreeze allowed to freeze damaging the front bolster, cylinder head or engine block.
- Chaining to the front axle to tow it and breaking the engine block and/or front bolster.
Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver. Most other failures are probably due to bad luck or things that just wear out.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
I had an engine throw a connecting rod out the side of the block. With a 2-3" hole in the side of the block, the only option was engine replacement.
The only warning I had was a squeaking that started while mowing with a Woods 42 mower. Though I regularly grease the mower zerk fitting, I suspected the mower was the source of the noise. The engine was still producing the same amount of power. I decided to head back to the "barn", but before I got more than about 100', the engine went "bang" and stopped. It wasn't until I was tearing the engine down, removing the distributor, that I actually saw the hole near the lower water inlet. That is what convinced me that a rebuild was out of question!!
The only warning I had was a squeaking that started while mowing with a Woods 42 mower. Though I regularly grease the mower zerk fitting, I suspected the mower was the source of the noise. The engine was still producing the same amount of power. I decided to head back to the "barn", but before I got more than about 100', the engine went "bang" and stopped. It wasn't until I was tearing the engine down, removing the distributor, that I actually saw the hole near the lower water inlet. That is what convinced me that a rebuild was out of question!!
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Jim Becker wrote:The two most common failures due to owner neglect or abuse are probably:
- Plain water or inadequate antifreeze allowed to freeze damaging the front bolster, cylinder head or engine block.
- Chaining to the front axle to tow it and breaking the engine block and/or front bolster.
Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver. Most other failures are probably due to bad luck or things that just wear out.
Omg I have seen videos of people chaining these in the wrong spot and ripping them in half.....bad times. I tow started one that way before so thanks for the info! Most tractors you can tow from the front so I can see why this could happen. Also yes, not doing regular maintenance is an easy way to kill any engine.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Dale Finch wrote:I had an engine throw a connecting rod out the side of the block. With a 2-3" hole in the side of the block, the only option was engine replacement.
The only warning I had was a squeaking that started while mowing with a Woods 42 mower. Though I regularly grease the mower zerk fitting, I suspected the mower was the source of the noise. The engine was still producing the same amount of power. I decided to head back to the "barn", but before I got more than about 100', the engine went "bang" and stopped. It wasn't until I was tearing the engine down, removing the distributor, that I actually saw the hole near the lower water inlet. That is what convinced me that a rebuild was out of question!!
Wait what caused it? Like did it just wear out or what?
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
I have a 48 cub that the owner fell apart on if that counts.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Jim Becker wrote:Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver.
I'm feeling a little targeted there, Jim.
Clint
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Shadow_storm56 wrote:Wait what caused it? Like did it just wear out or what?
Not sure...the rod was bent and after knocking the hole in the block jammed into the cam shaft (which is what stopped the engine darn fast!). It looked like a nut may have come off and allowed the rod cap on, I think, #2 cylinder to partially fall off.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
clintmo wrote:Jim Becker wrote:Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver.
I'm feeling a little targeted there, Jim.
Clint
That means he likes you.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:I have a 48 cub that the owner fell apart on if that counts.
Lack of maintenance or just worn out?
clintmo wrote:Jim Becker wrote:Next on the list would probably be letting it roll downhill with no driver.
I'm feeling a little targeted there, Jim.
Clint
I'm not naming names. Over the years, we've had multiple examples. I probably should have grouped in all the tractors that didn't stay on their wheels. I've come close myself.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
The PO of mine was mowing next to a pond. He was backing toward it, coasting downhill, with the clutch disengaged. He started rolling too fast and the brakes didn't work too well, so he dumped the clutch at the last second and broke the crankshaft.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
I got stuck - really wedged - in a draniage ditch that I though I could open up with the grader blade.
Crack the trans and right rear final housing both at the flange getting it out. Had the loader cub and other cub and a winch to get it out.
Did not notice the cracks for a few weeks.
Crack the trans and right rear final housing both at the flange getting it out. Had the loader cub and other cub and a winch to get it out.
Did not notice the cracks for a few weeks.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Dale Finch wrote:I had an engine throw a connecting rod out the side of the block. With a 2-3" hole in the side of the block, the only option was engine replacement.
The only warning I had was a squeaking that started while mowing with a Woods 42 mower. Though I regularly grease the mower zerk fitting, I suspected the mower was the source of the noise. The engine was still producing the same amount of power. I decided to head back to the "barn", but before I got more than about 100', the engine went "bang" and stopped. It wasn't until I was tearing the engine down, removing the distributor, that I actually saw the hole near the lower water inlet. That is what convinced me that a rebuild was out of question!!
You know it's funny.... I wonder if anyone ever put like a 20hp kubota diesel or somthing like that in one of these that had a dead engine. Like I know theres lots of hot rod engine swaps but what have people done for actually useful engine swaps Haha.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
Shadow_storm56 wrote:You know it's funny.... I wonder if anyone ever put like a 20hp kubota diesel or somthing like that in one of these that had a dead engine. Like I know theres lots of hot rod engine swaps but what have people done for actually useful engine swaps Haha.
This is about what you can expect from a dead Cub.
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Re: Anyone ever killed their cub?
I saw one in a repair shop one time that the owner had been using for mowing (belly mower) and drove down in a ditch and struck the front end on a stump. It broke the entire front of the block away from the rest of the engine.
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