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C-2 mower blade mount

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Crimson Tim
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Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby Crimson Tim » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:49 pm

inairam wrote:In a contuned effort to reduce the vibration this weekend I took off the blands again and weighed them with a digital fish scale before and after sharpening. There was little or no change using the ounces setting.

The fish scale also has a tape and using mm they are the same length.

One blade was 63 oz and one was 59 oz. Is this too much of a difference? I happen to have a long hook for the battery box close by and that is about 4 oz. +/- 2 oz on an average 61 oz is +/- 3.3% with a total of 6.6% difference.


You don’t have access to a postal scale, do you? I sure would prefer to have them match to 0.1 oz. that’s probably way more precision than necessary, but as long as you’re balancing it…
The distance from the center of gravity of the blade to the center of rotation also plays a role, so it matters where you take the material off as well.

I picked up a cheap garage sale lawnmower a while back. It had a badly out of balance blade on it. It had vibrated so badly that it busted out all of the mounting bolts holding the engine to the body and cracked the carburetor mounting plate in half from fatigue. How long must they have tolerated it shaking that badly to cause so much damage? (The engine still runs strong and starts easy, though, so it was worth it to me.)

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inairam
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Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby inairam » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:02 pm

The scale I have will give o.1 oz or grams units so I am good. I have used the postal scale at work but had to get smaller one to balance the weights on the governer.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby KenBTexas » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:58 pm

A silly thought.
I love my cub and I think I like the C-2 mower.
Even tho I have my sights on a Woods, I am thinking of rebuilding my C-2.
If I go to all the trouble to rebuild the clutch assy. and tuneup the blade assembly, I would want a good deck.
Mine is fair but it has seen better days (repairs, holes and no skids or even a place to mount them).
Has anyone tried to make a new deck ??
A 4X8 sheet of 12 gauge steel can be had for less than $200.00.
How tough can it be using the old one as a template to cut a hexagon, and have extras for sides??

inairam
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Posts: 2821
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby inairam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:42 am

The two blades were 3.6 oz different in weight. By looking and measuring it looks like the blade was poorly sharpened by the PO removing about 5/16 of material from the entire cutting edge. I did not want to cut the other blade to match so I made .75 oz steel weights and welded them to both sides of the light blade in the edge area ( where the material was missing) and had to put a small bead on the heavy blade. Now both blades weigh the same (to 0.1 oz accuracy per my digital fish scale).

I will try them today and report if the balance is improved.
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When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

inairam
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby inairam » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:30 pm

Ok this did reduce the vibration a good bit. There is not the constant vibration in the steering wheel. For now I will put off getting new blades.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby KenBTexas » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:24 am

inairam wrote:Ok this did reduce the vibration a good bit. There is not the constant vibration in the steering wheel. For now I will put off getting new blades.


good to no that balancing helped.
I am about to take mine mower apart and rebuild as much as possible.
So am following closely :)

1 question tho if I may .. have you found a source for new blades ?
Everything I find is a dead end..

inairam
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Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:24 am
Zip Code: 19342
Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby inairam » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:24 am

I only found them at ih case dealer. The ag supply and other aftermarket ones I did not find a match. There are over $100 each at the dealers my way
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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KenBTexas
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Location: Waco, Texas

Re: C-2 mower blade mount

Postby KenBTexas » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:25 pm

ouch :(

someone posted an oregon a while back number but no joy so far..


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