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Aluminum trailer

Postby Dusty B » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:45 pm

Has anyone had experience hauling their cub on a small aluminum trailer?? 5x8 or 6x10!! Good experience or bad?? Know the small trailers would be at maximum capacity,! Thanks
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Eugene » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:36 pm

I don't know that there is an answer with out more information. Everything depends on the trailer axle(s) and maximum trailer load capacity. Then the question of the towing vehicle's ability and tractor, implement weight.

Wild guess; Cub, wheel weights, mower deck, over 2000 lbs. perhaps closer to 2500 lbs.

I have a small trailer with 1500 lb. single axle. I haven't used it to haul one of my Cubs. I use the 18 foot tandem axle trailer.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:37 am

I hauled my 184 on a 5x8 trailer once. It would fit with no implements, - well the three point arms stuck out the back - but there was no way to adjust the weight distribution.
I bought a bigger trailer.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Rick Spivey » Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:44 am

Aluminum or steel would make very little difference, the aluminum gives similar strength with less weight for the tow vehicle. I used a 5 x 8 trailer a few times, then upgraded to 5 x 12, and now use a 6 x 16. I wouldn't suggest the 5 x 8 for any serious hauling of a cub, too small. The dual axle and longer length make the 6 x 16 much easier to back up and manipulate. I also have brakes on both axles. Trailering is not about what you can tow, it's about what you can stop.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby MiCarl » Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:32 am

Here in Michigan, and I think it's similar across the country, a trailer rated for 3,000 or more must have brakes. So my steel trailer with a 3,500lb. axle but no brakes is rated at 2,990 by the manufacturer. They figure the trailer weighs about 1,000 lbs. (they don't actually weigh them) so I have a load capacity of roughly 1,990 lbs.

A similar trailer made of aluminum would weigh about 800 lbs. so the capacity would be 2,190 lbs. I opted not to spend the extra $$ on aluminum for only 200 lbs.

FWIW - My 1948 Cub with a set of rear weights, Touch Control and a full tank weighs 1,702 lbs. That doesn't leave much capacity for implements. I figure going home from a plow day with a 193 plow and some field dirt puts me right at the limit.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby radioguy41 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:13 am

I haul mine on a 6x10 trailer, axle rated at 3500lbs, GVW rated at 2990lbs, payload rated at 2015lbs (trailer weight = 975lbs). I use two 4x4s laid in front of the front tires to space it back on the trailer for balancing the load. Steel or aluminum, what matters is the ratings of the axle and payload. Cubs aren't quite as heavy as folks imagine, see actual weights below. The first is with wheel weights and some extras, the second is without wheel weights and some extras.

Weighed at Jacktown Groove - 10/21/2017 - 1870 lbs

Here's what it consisted of:

1 set rear wheel weights
1 set front wheel weights
Rear flat belt PTO
2 drawbars (yes, 2)
Plow depth adjustor
Front hitch
5 gallons of gas
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Full electrical system with lights front and back
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Weighed at Jacktown Groove - 10/20/2018 - 1475 lbs

Here's what it consisted of:

Drawbar
Front hitch
5 gallons of gas
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Full electrical system with lights front and back
Vertical exhaust with muffler and flap
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New 8.3x24 rear ag tires (well worn tires can weigh a bit less) on W5 rims
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Pogo stick seat with new cushioned pan
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby ctltmp » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:16 am

Just moved a 53 Cub on a 6x10 aluminum trailer an hour and a half each way. No issues.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:49 am

No smaller than 6x10 and definitely have brakes on it, especially if you are using a lightweight vehicle to pull it. Like Rick said, the important thing is stopping it. That will haul a basic Cub with a mower.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Eugene » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:08 pm

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Operating: 1477 lbs
669 kg (early)
1877 lbs
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Ballasted: 2891 lbs
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Urbish » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:22 pm

I have hauled Cubs with the U-haul 5x8 ramp trailer and now use a 5-1/2x10 that I bought at TSC (Tow vehicles: Ford Edge & Dodge Grand Caravan). Either works great for a bare Cub. As others have said, you'll need to go bigger if you plan to haul with implements on. I sometimes utilize the outdoor and easily accessed scale at my local landscaping place when they are closed on the weekends to evaluate trailer load.

Also, keep in mind that the majority of the weight is on the back tires, so you may have to load the tractor backward to get the appropriate tongue weight.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby radioguy41 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:25 pm

Urbish wrote:Also, keep in mind that the majority of the weight is on the back tires, so you may have to load the tractor backward to get the appropriate tongue weight.

That depends on the location of the axle. As you can see in this photo if I move the Cub all the way forward there is excessive tonque weight which is why I space it rearward using two 4x4s. If I backed it on it would be even worse. It all depends on where that trailer axle is mounted.

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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Dusty B » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:06 pm

That’s my next question that I forgot to ask - weight of front axle vs back axle of bare cub? Pulling 5 X 8 aluminum trailer w/ Lincoln TC (4000 #)!
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Re: Aluminum trailer

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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:29 pm

Dusty B wrote:Pulling 5 X 8 aluminum trailer w/ Lincoln TC

No room for a mower deck if so equipped. Best to have a 6x10.
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Re: Aluminum trailer

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:56 am

Factor in the needed tiedown equipment and placement to meet the DOT requirements. I personally would not want to have to explain my decision to law enforcement or in a courtroom in case of an accident. JMHO
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