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ID problem
Brought home a yellow cub this week...I didn't look it over too close when I bought it, it turned over, looked to be all there...so I paid and loaded and dumped it off behind the shop....It took a while to get the heavy paint off the id tag (serial num.75793)-(Block number : 251341R8)...
Went to Tractor Data and shows to be a red 1949...? Went out and scraped paint in several spots...no red, couple coats of yellow, obvious it has not been red, ever. It appears to have the wrong hood supports, but maybe just not mounted correct(holes worn bad).
I need suggestions as to what I have dragged home....
Went to Tractor Data and shows to be a red 1949...? Went out and scraped paint in several spots...no red, couple coats of yellow, obvious it has not been red, ever. It appears to have the wrong hood supports, but maybe just not mounted correct(holes worn bad).
I need suggestions as to what I have dragged home....
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Re: ID problem
the sheet metal and dash make is a 1964-1975 cub. It may have gotten a replacement bolster from a 49 donor.
can you read the engine serial number and or the casting codes?
see here http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_001.htm
can you read the engine serial number and or the casting codes?
see here http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_001.htm
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!
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Re: ID problem
Engine part number shows it to be a 64 or newer. I agree the bolster was changed at one time.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.


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Re: ID problem
Agree, but the serial number is shown in the photo below, indicating it to be a 1949... Could it be a Low Boy.??
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Re: ID problem
The serial number was probably transferred over with the bolster. Lo-boy serial numbers did not go that high.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.


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Re: ID problem
Barnyard wrote:The serial number was probably transferred over with the bolster. Lo-boy serial numbers did not go that high.
What are you calling the bolster? It does not appear that the serial tag was replaced when inspecting the layered paint around it. Uh
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Re: ID problem
The bolster is the steering gear housing the serial tag is attached to. When those are replaced with a used one most of the time the old serial tag is left attached.
If you look to the left of your serial number you will see where it says "F-Cub". that means your plate came from a Farmall Cub and not a Loboy.
If you look to the left of your serial number you will see where it says "F-Cub". that means your plate came from a Farmall Cub and not a Loboy.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.


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Re: ID problem
the casting the tag is riveted to is the bolster, it probably was cracked from freezing and was swapped out with one from a 49, they did not bother to swap the tag, get the build date on the bolster casting, that will tell you for sure
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Re: ID problem
tst wrote:the casting the tag is riveted to is the bolster, it probably was cracked from freezing and was swapped out with one from a 49, they did not bother to swap the tag, get the build date on the bolster casting, that will tell you for sure
Understood, looking at the profile, can it be determined what style it is, ie: cub or low boy..??
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Re: ID problem
...and thanks for the attention...
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Re: ID problem
Your tractor is a regular Cub. A Loboy has lower steering spindles.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.


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Re: ID problem
The part number on the block in your photo show that it is a R8 block which was the last revision.
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Re: ID problem
Was the bolster ever red? Scrape that and see.
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Re: ID problem
Hi,
There should be date codes made in the larger castings on Cubs. Below is info from TM Tractor showing what date codes are.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm
The page below shows where the date codes are.
The date code on the clutch housing, in the 1st pic, is usually partly behind the clutch pedal.
The date code on the steering gear housing, in the last pic, is usually hidden when the tractor is assembled. You might be able to see it using a light.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/castdate_loc.htm
The Cub has a mid 1964 - 1972 dash, with the large push button starter switch.
You could ask the last owner if he has the other steering gear housing somewhere, it might have the original serial number plate on it.
The serial number plate would not originally have any red or yellow paint on it.
See if there is red paint somewhere other than the plate, on the casting.
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub operator's manual showing where the engine serial number is, at the lower right of the page. The number is stamped in the block. You might have to clean the area, and use a light to see it.
There is a pic of a LoBoy on the page also, you can see the length of the front axle spindles there, shorter than your Cub has.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-03.jpg
The styles of serial number plates changed over the years.
Below are pics of serial number plates, from TM Tractor.
The 1st pic was the style used in 1949.
The 2nd pic was the style used when the yellow and white, square front Cubs were made.
There should be date codes made in the larger castings on Cubs. Below is info from TM Tractor showing what date codes are.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm
The page below shows where the date codes are.
The date code on the clutch housing, in the 1st pic, is usually partly behind the clutch pedal.
The date code on the steering gear housing, in the last pic, is usually hidden when the tractor is assembled. You might be able to see it using a light.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/castdate_loc.htm
The Cub has a mid 1964 - 1972 dash, with the large push button starter switch.
You could ask the last owner if he has the other steering gear housing somewhere, it might have the original serial number plate on it.
The serial number plate would not originally have any red or yellow paint on it.
See if there is red paint somewhere other than the plate, on the casting.
Below is a page from the 1965 Cub operator's manual showing where the engine serial number is, at the lower right of the page. The number is stamped in the block. You might have to clean the area, and use a light to see it.
There is a pic of a LoBoy on the page also, you can see the length of the front axle spindles there, shorter than your Cub has.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-03.jpg
The styles of serial number plates changed over the years.
Below are pics of serial number plates, from TM Tractor.
The 1st pic was the style used in 1949.
The 2nd pic was the style used when the yellow and white, square front Cubs were made.

Last edited by Glen on Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: ID problem
Frozenstate wrote:Was the bolster ever red? Scrape that and see.
I've scraped several places and found no red, pretty sure it was never red. Previous owner passed away.
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