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Original battery box
Just wondering what an original battery box looks like?
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.
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Re: Original battery box
I used an original battery box from a 1948 Cub to build a new one. There are several pictures of it in this How To thread:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=82882
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=82882
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1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
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Re: Original battery box
It you are looking to buy one I was very pleased with the one sold by TM tractor http://www.tmtractor.com/new/el/5721fp.htm. I did purchase several from different sources before I go on from TM and think this is the best one I have.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!
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Re: Original battery box
Stanton wrote:I used an original battery box from a 1948 Cub to build a new one. There are several pictures of it in this How To thread:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=82882
Great effort there.
I noticed that the lid seems to differ a little between the TM and Steiner parts. Which 1 is correct?
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.
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Re: Original battery box
There were actually three "correct/original" styles of battery box lids. One with two rubber hold down mounts, one with four rubber hold down mounts (like the Steiner lid) and one with four clips around the edge of the lid to hold the battery down and position it in the center of the box. The two mount version appears to start when the early conversion to 12V took place (1964). The clip version was used in later years with the 12V battery. TM explains in their product description why they didn't include the hold down mounts on theirs.
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Re: Original battery box
OK , My cub is a 1957 , so I'm guessing it was 6V originally.
Its got a battery box on it now , but no lid or front panel.
Ive been looking at both the TM and Steiner boxes and they both look well made.
I can see a difference in the way the flange has been made on the lids. The TM has
a notch in the corners to allow for bending whereas the Steiner looks like it has been hard pressed to give a neat formed corner.
Are both correct ?
Its got a battery box on it now , but no lid or front panel.
Ive been looking at both the TM and Steiner boxes and they both look well made.
I can see a difference in the way the flange has been made on the lids. The TM has
a notch in the corners to allow for bending whereas the Steiner looks like it has been hard pressed to give a neat formed corner.
Are both correct ?
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.
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Re: Original battery box
If you look at the current production TM lid above, I think they are both made the same way. Yes, your 57 would have been 6V from the factory.
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Re: Original battery box
Have you tried posting a WANTED ad in the VINE section to see if someone has the front and top...assuming your box is in good condition?
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1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Glen Mills PA
Re: Original battery box
I agree with Dale. match an old box with an old lid would be your best option. The hold down for the battery may get in the way. You have to be careful about battery selection. (Probably the reason the lid is missing - lid would not fit battery too tall).
6v size 19L or Group 1, 12 v size 26R all fit the 19L ( VW bug 6 volt size) is the smallest but has the lowest CCA ( cold cranking amps.) I have a mix of 19ls and group 1 in my 6 volt cubs. I have not had a problem with the 19ls but I am not in a super cold area.
6v size 19L or Group 1, 12 v size 26R all fit the 19L ( VW bug 6 volt size) is the smallest but has the lowest CCA ( cold cranking amps.) I have a mix of 19ls and group 1 in my 6 volt cubs. I have not had a problem with the 19ls but I am not in a super cold area.
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Re: Original battery box
this is my battery box. It doesn't look like an original to me.
I might wait a bit and get a whole new assy ??
I might wait a bit and get a whole new assy ??
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.
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Re: Original battery box
You are correct. It is not original.
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Re: Original battery box
Thought it so. The cutout on the side didn't look correct.
I haven't had the battery out to see what the bottom is like , but it will do for the time being...
I haven't had the battery out to see what the bottom is like , but it will do for the time being...
Cripes - I thought I'd never get one.
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Re: Original battery box
that is a Taiwan cheapie, they were poor quality also, most of the time the factory lid does not fit that anyway
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'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Original battery box
FYI...after you remove your current battery box, make sure you clean the area underneath REALLY well. Assuming you will be using the new battery box for ground (ground wire bolted to the top left side hole...clean away any primer and/or paint), you should also chase the battery box bolt holes to remove rust and old gunk! Those bolts provide the ground. On mine I also removed a small dot of paint from the box bottom where each bolt goes through, along with matching "dots" on the chassis around the bolt holes. Hard to chase down bad grounds later, so eliminating this area as a problem now is the easiest way!
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