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Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:10 pm

Hi we have a 65 internation cub c60 I'm trying to figure out my coolant problem it's leaking out of the hole in the bottom of the bell housing.upon reading some forums I saw some other guys have had freeze plug problems, upon splitting the tractor,no frost plugs? So it looks like the only place it could leak is the rear main? But it would have to be a blown head gasket to cause that I assume? Not sure drained the oil and it's all oil has anyone had this problem or anyone have any pointers
Thanks Don

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Glen » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Hi,
A Cub engine has no freeze plugs.
I don't know how coolant would get in the clutch housing. It looks like if it came out the rear of the head, it would just run down the outside of the castings.

Head gasket leaks happen on Cub engines, check it closely for leaks. :)

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:55 am

Thanks for the reply, yea I found out there were no frost plugs, after splitting it. And yea we are pretty stumped and leaning towards the head gasket
I did drain the oil pan and it's Still good clean oil so that made me second guess the head gasket
Thanks

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:00 am

Another symptom the tractor had,just thought off adding this, when running at high speed it would burn clean and when hot and lowering the idle it would some puff white smoke
Thanks again for any pointers
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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Rick Spivey » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:33 am

Still sounds like head gasket if puffing white smoke...
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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:35 am

What about the clean oil?
Could the head gasket be bad with no coolant in the oil
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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Waif » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:10 am

Head bolt threads need sealed when installed too.
Part of sealing as much as a gasket.
Leaking would be from a different spot than head gasket edges.
Leaks can "track". Making diagnosis important.

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Eugene » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:31 am

Donaldgmiller79 wrote:What about the clean oil? Could the head gasket be bad with no coolant in the oil? Thanks
Yes. The piston compression rings could/would contain coolant leaking into the combustion chamber.

The guys have discussed the possible causes for the coolant leakage. The white smoke is an indication that some, a small bit of coolant is leaking into a combustion chamber.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Glen » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:15 pm

Hi,
If you remove the head, the head bolt threads need sealer put on them, they go into the engine water jacket.
Some of the people on here spray the new head gasket with sealer also.
Below is a post I wrote on, with info, and pics of the sealer products. It's at my 1st post on the page.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=102173&p=807860

The head bolts should be re torqued after the engine has been used, and has warmed up fully, and cooled down several times. Re torque them when the engine is cold.

Below is the Cub and LoBoy service manual. The engine is in section 1. It would be helpful to read it before working on it. It has the torque specs, and head bolt torque sequence. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:49 pm

Great thanks for the links
I'm you going to try to find a head gasket and go for that
Does anyone know where the best most cost effective head gasket can be found?
Thanks for the replys

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Glen » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:55 pm

Hi,
TM Tractor at the bottom of the page sells them, below is the listing.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/438fp.htm

Auto parts stores like NAPA can get them, the people on here have said.
Ask for a head gasket for an IH C60 engine. :)

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Donaldgmiller79 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Fantastic thanks alot Glen i appreciate your experience and advise

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby Glen » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:34 pm

Hi,
Glad to help.
If you remove the head, you should replace the upper radiator hose, if it is old. It is a straight piece of hose.
Below is a listing at TM Tractor, showing the size.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/hc/342fp.htm

It is easier to remove the upper water elbow first, to get the head off the engine. If the 2 bolts won't come out, you could leave it in place.
Be careful to not break the radiator tube, if the hose is stuck on it, carefully run a small screwdriver in the end of the hose, between the hose and the tube, to loosen it from the tube. Don't pry on the tube, it can bend.

Below is a new elbow gasket, it looks like this one. You can make one if you want. I would put sealer on it also.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/398fp.htm

New hose clamps are good to put on it, if needed. When putting it together, try to turn the ends of the clamps for the screwdriver so you can get to them with the hood on, so they can be retightened. The hoses need retightening after some use.
I reach up under the hood from the left side, using a light, and tighten them. A short screwdriver works.
If the clamps will use a wrench, that works too. :)

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Re: Coolant leaking out of bottom bell housing hole

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:14 pm

As you have decided, most likely a head gasket, but I had one with a hairline crack across the back of the block, that was completely hidden behind the flywheel. If all else fails, puff a little corn starch or talcum powderon the back of the block and look for the trails. tip from eugene.
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