'49 F.Cub - seat orientation

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'49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Flemmingth » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:35 pm

In my restoration project, I've come to the seat, which was patched with sheet metal on top and beneath, and lot of tiny bolts. Worked OK, but the look :roll:
Removing the patchwork I found what expected - cracked seat and ruined fastening.

Tried to attach pics, but got this error message ERROR Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached ? ?

QUESTION: The seat is orientated a little to the left. Is that factory made, or :?:
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:01 pm

Seat is oriented straight ahead.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Glen » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:25 pm

Hi,
Below are pics from the 1949 Cub owner's manual of the seat base, and seat. This is what USA Cubs had, not sure if yours is the same.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-04.jpg

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-43.jpg

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... age-60.jpg

TM Tractor has new seats, you can look at the pics.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/se/356fp.htm

The seat is to the right slightly, of the center of the steering wheel.

Below is a pic from TM Tractor, the seat has to have this part at the 2 holes at the lower end of the seat shaft, to keep the seat straight ahead. The seat would turn any direction without it there. :)

http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gse/guide_001.htm

The parts manual for the French Cubs shows there is also another seat, and base that was used for those.
I can't post it on here. It is at the upper left of the page at Quick links.

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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Flemmingth » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:56 pm

Thanks for the replies.
The seatpost is installed correct - exactly as Glen describes.
The seat bracket on top of the post, is turned a little to the left - just as if it aimes at the steering wheel.
(Still problems with attaching pics. Site admin is contacted)
No hurry for solving this task, as I need to repair the seat before it can be used again (wire wheel dirt/rust/paint, cut out the moth-eaten part, weld in new bottom and fabricate/weld on new fastening).
:evil: I 'love' sheet metal welding :evil:
You will get pics once I can again.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation - now with pics

Postby Flemmingth » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:45 pm

Seat with patcwork removed.
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Underside.
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Surgery started
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Here you can see the seatpost installled without seat. I thought the seat was turned a bit as compensation because it isn't in-line with steering wheel and pedals :?:
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Hard and uncomfortable, but better than without. Must do until I get the old seat repaired - or give in, and pay a fortune for a new one.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby brewzalot » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:04 pm

[quote="Flemmingth"]Seat with patcwork removed.

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That's not an original seat, its a spaghetti strainer. :roll:

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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Flemmingth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:32 am

Gave up repairing the old seat. It's simply too rotten for proper welding, due to 70 years corrosion.
I'm ordering a new one from HistoParts.com in Holland.
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€96,- + shipping €17,- (VAT included) = appr. $126,-
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:36 am

Not that much more than it would cost here. Yes, expensive. But think how PURDY it will look!! :{_}:
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Flemmingth » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:34 am

Dale Finch wrote:But think how PURDY it will look!! :{_}:

Exactly 8)
I could have finished the repair to a usable condition.
But - the thought of being dissatisfied everytime I climb the Cub made the decision.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Dale Finch » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:14 pm

I got really lucky a few years ago. All my cubs had metal pan seats. They had been sandblasted, and painted, but a couple were pretty rough. We used the padded seat covers for comfort. Well, someone posted that AgriSupply had new padded red & white seats on sale. I went down and bought 4 of them. They are about the same weight steel as the original, with the grommet in the middle. The vinyl might be a bit thinner, not sure. But they were only $25.00!!! Aside from being comfy, they just make me feel good in my head and put a smile on my face when I pull the dust covers off!! :D
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Flemmingth » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:27 pm

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This temporary solution was unpleasant like :censored:

So I got very glad when this one arrived from HistoParts in Holland. Very comfortable :{_}:
I ordered it with drain hole, but got one without. Well - no matter - the Cub will always be inside, or at least under roof (summer time), when not in use.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:13 pm

Niiiice!! :D

And I''ll bet your butt will feel like :big smile:!!!
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Stanton » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:42 pm

Good decision. There comes a point in time to replace something instead of fixing it.

You did well.
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Re: '49 F.Cub - seat orientation

Postby Glen » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:10 pm

Hi,
Nice new seat in your pic. :)

You said above that it is turned to the left some.
If IH wasn't trying to make them that way then, then the cut in the lower end of the shaft for the guide was somehow made in the wrong place, with the top turned to the left some.
Or the top end was welded on in the wrong position, I don't know. My opinion. :)

If you are putting on an original style battery box, and grounding the battery the original way, on the side of the box, they ground there on USA Cubs, then you should remove some paint around the 4 holes on the housing, where the box bolts on, and the 4 holes on the bottom of the battery box, so the battery can ground.


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