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64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Skeebow » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:43 pm

Hello,

Today I bought a 1964 Farmall Cub tractor. I can't read the serial number plate because it has been painted over, but all of the casting codes end in K. The final drives end in J. It is the square nose. Its also 6 volt! I hear that only made a 6 volt square nose cub the first half of 1964. Also to top it off I do believe it is an original red tractor. My dad and I (Ben B as you might now him on the forum) took the hood off today because it needs some work to get running and we noticed yellow paint bleeding through some red on top of another layer of red paint. We scraped through the paint in multiple other places and its red all the way to metal. The hood, control panel, and the two side panels show signs of being yellow at some point in time. If anyone has an explanation for this I would love to learn the info.

The tractor has been sitting some time and the fuel system is gummed up. Hopefully we will hear it run and possibly ride under its own power tomorrow.

Thanks!

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Stanton » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:45 am

Welcome!

Take some time and read through a few threads to acquaint yourself with the Forum:

After your 2nd post on the Forum, you'll have access to the all the free PDF Manuals. They are located via "Quick Links" in the upper left corner of your screen. Hit that and a pull-down appears where you'll find "PDF Manuals". Through that link, you'll be able to download an Owner's Manual (very strongly recommended) and any service manuals that interest you. You'll be able to familiarize yourself with your new-to-you Cub more quickly. Implement Manuals are also available.

Might also enjoy reading through this thread: What to do with a Cub you just brought home

As for the paint quandary, perhaps it was red from the factory, got re-painted yellow/white at some point and again red on top of that. Take some pictures of your tractor and post them. We’d like to see it.

Glad you joined us.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Ben B » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:17 am

Welcome! Another generation of Cub enthusiasts comes rolling in.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby TallCoolOne58 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:28 am

Welcome, and enjoy your Cub. A lot of satisfaction in putting in a few hours of good old-fashioned elbow grease, and hear it cough sputter and run.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Bob McCarty » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:38 am

Welcome to the Forum.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Peter Person » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:29 am

Welcome to the forum and Congrats on getting a Cub.

1964 12V Farmall Cub is the rare one, only 303 made, S/N 224401-224703

See if you can clean up the S/N plate and come up with a number.
With 'J' (1963) casting code on the finals and 'K' (1964) on the other major items, and being 6V, sounds like an early 1964.

1964 S/N 223453 - 224400 6V Farmall Cub (all Red)
1964 S/N 224401 - 224703 12V Farmall Cub (Red with White Hood)
1964 S/N 224704 - 225109 12V International Cub

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Cubfriend » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:31 am

Welcome to the forum! Hope your tractor is running very soon. I have a late ‘63 square nose Loboy that is 6 volt. In ‘64 IH made a Farmall Cub that was all red. I believe the early red ones were 6 volt and a few of the last red ones were 12 volt. After the red ‘64 “Farmall Cub” they changed the decals to “International Cub” with the yellow and white Cubs.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Skeebow » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:26 pm

Thank you all for the replies. Thank you Stanton for the information on the forum.

Here are the pictures of it before I picked it up. Today we heard it run! It was lacking in power, I found a vacuum leak between the carb and intake manifold using carb cleaner. The threads on one side the carburetor are stripped out for the stock bolt. So I'm guessing I need drill and tap it to the next size (info on this would greatly be appreciated before I mess it up). We also found a leak in the radiator (if someone has one for sale I will need one). I fired up the woods 59 and It seemed to be fine. I believe all it will need is a blade sharpening and the wheels for the front. I am very happy with this tractor.

What style decals would this thing have had of the floor? Since its probably a farmall and not an international.

I will try stripping paint to get a serial number. Someone has taken sandpaper to the number plate. I hope they didn't sand it off. There is still lots of paint on it.

Thanks guys!
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Glen » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:34 pm

Hi,
The Cub looks good in your pics.

I think the people on here have said it's better to remove the carburetor, and install a thread repair coil, then it can use the same studs as it originally had.
I think it takes a special size drill bit and tap to install the repair coil.

Below is a listing at TM Tractor for new carb studs.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/fl/405fp.htm

Below is a page from the Cub parts manual with pics of the first square front Cub, and it gives the serial numbers when they were made. You can read the Farmall Cub decal on the hood.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-12.jpg

Below is the hood decal from TM Tractor for the 1964 Farmall Cub with the square front. You can look at the pic.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/de/de40.htm

Below is the listing with the price, it is the 1st listing on the page.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/de/de_003.htm

Below is a Cub owner's manual with pics of the square front Farmall Cub in the first few pages.
The manual has lots of info, the experts on here recommend reading it. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

Some paint thinner on a rag might remove red paint from the serial number plate.

A compression test, and complete engine tune up would be good. The timing should be set with a timing light, after replacing the points, and setting them to the right gap.
The timing being wrong can make it have less power.

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Gary Dotson » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:36 am

The carb. threads are an easy repair. Just pick up a 1/4-20 Heli-coil kit (Heli-coil is a brand name, there are other brands available, all are ok) which will include the proper drill bit, thread inserts and installation tool. It will be better than ever!

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Skeebow » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:57 pm

Hello again,

The carburetor has been drilled and tapped and heli coils in them and its running better than ever. The woods 59 mows great. I ran it for probably 15 minutes and it started to get a little hot. It has an aftermarket temp gauge on it. The radiator has a hole in it at the moment and slowly leaks antifreeze. Im not sure if these have any correlation. A new radiator is in the mail on its way. Im hoping this fixes the problem.

We did a compression test and it seemed low, I think 70psi dry and 90 wet. I will be adjusting valves tomorrow, then checking the points and timing.

Thanks guys
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Frozenstate » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:28 am

It appears to be the extremely rare 8 volt version by the looks of the battery.

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Eugene » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:48 am

Skeebow wrote:I ran it for probably 15 minutes and it started to get a little hot.
Before installing the new radiator, flush the engine block to remove built up crud.

Use search function for several explanations on how to flush the engine block.

Cubs with the thermosyphon cooling system run hot, somewhere around 200 F.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:06 am

Depending on where your radiator was made, you may find the water neck does not line up correctly. IF that would be the case, you'll want to order one made by Clancy in Ireland.
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Re: 64 6 volt, New to forum

Postby ntrenn » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:48 pm

I like the custom voltage regulator deflector shield...


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