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afd1983
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Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:51 am

Hello all, this is my first post here. I've got a 1958 International Cub Lo Boy (unfortunately painted brown by a previous owner?) and I just noticed oil in the water and water in the oil yesterday. I'm mechanically inclined, although I've never done anything more advanced than changing oil, sparkplugs, and brakes, but my brother in law rebuilds old tractors all the time and is willing to help me.

However I can't seem to figure out which head gasket/gasket kit I need to get. Can anyone here help me?

I've looked at yesterdaystractors.com and a couple other sites but all I can find is kits for the later models. This is a really dumb question but do I have a C-60 engine?

Thanks for any help you can give.

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby Don McCombs » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:45 am

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby ricky racer » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:42 pm

Don McCombs wrote:http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/438fp.htm

And, welcome to the forum.

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby ricky racer » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:45 pm

afd1983 wrote:This is a really dumb question but do I have a C-60 engine?

Yes and there are no dumb questions here. TM specializes in Farmall Cub parts and is an excellent resource and is a site sponsor. However, you can probably get a head gasket from your local NAPA store.
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Re: Head Gasket

Postby Glen » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi,
Welcome to the website.
The head bolt threads need sealer put on them, they go into the engine water jacket.
Some of the people on here spray the new head gasket with sealer also.
Below is a post I wrote on, with info, and pics of the sealer products. It's at my 1st post on the page. :)

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=102173&p=807860

The head bolts should be re torqued after the engine has been used, and has warmed up fully, and cooled down 1 or more times. Re torque them when the engine is cold.

Below is the Cub and LoBoy service manual. The engine is in section 1. It would be helpful to read it before working on it.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:39 am

Don McCombs wrote:http://www.tmtractor.com/new/en/438fp.htm

And, welcome to the forum.

Hey, Thanks!

I took the hood off today and I'll tell you what, this doesn't actually look that hard. (famous last words)

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:39 am

This is fantastic. THANK YOU!


Glen wrote:Hi,
Welcome to the website.
The head bolt threads need sealer put on them, they go into the engine water jacket.
Some of the people on here spray the new head gasket with sealer also.
Below is a post I wrote on, with info, and pics of the sealer products. It's at my 1st post on the page. :)

http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 3&p=807860

The head bolts should be re torqued after the engine has been used, and has warmed up fully, and cooled down 1 or more times. Re torque them when the engine is cold.

Below is the Cub and LoBoy service manual. The engine is in section 1. It would be helpful to read it before working on it.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby ntrenn » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:17 pm

You are just about to experience mission creep, the cub way....

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Thu May 02, 2019 6:54 am

ntrenn wrote:You are just about to experience mission creep, the cub way....



...meaning, I suppose, that I'm about to do a lot more than just a head gasket. Oh, boy...

:lol:

Gaskets arrived yesterday, I'm sure I'll be back on here asking for help tonight.

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:19 am

Anything else I can use other than the specific liquid form-a-gasket for the bolts?


Glen wrote:Hi,
Welcome to the website.
The head bolt threads need sealer put on them, they go into the engine water jacket.
Some of the people on here spray the new head gasket with sealer also.
Below is a post I wrote on, with info, and pics of the sealer products. It's at my 1st post on the page. :)

http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 3&p=807860

The head bolts should be re torqued after the engine has been used, and has warmed up fully, and cooled down 1 or more times. Re torque them when the engine is cold.

Below is the Cub and LoBoy service manual. The engine is in section 1. It would be helpful to read it before working on it.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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Re: Head Gasket

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu May 02, 2019 8:37 am

A lot of people like to use copper coat on both sides of the head gasket as a sealer.
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Re: Head Gasket

Postby afd1983 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:11 am

Thanks to everyone who responded and gave me advice about this. Everything came apart very easily and the new head gasket install was really not hard at all.


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