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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:00 am

Well I counted out 84 nuts of various sizes and shapes and dropped them in. I’ll go down to the basement to shake it around once every hour.
Man, I must be getting old cause that’s a workout!
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Slim140 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:07 am

Lt.Mike wrote:Well I counted out 84 nuts of various sizes and shapes and dropped them in. I’ll go down to the basement to shake it around once every hour.
Man, I must be getting old cause that’s a workout!

Walking to the basement or counting that high? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:03 pm

:roll: Both
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:31 pm

Well I gave the evaporust 4 days with it being shaken with the nuts inside.
I drained it today and washed it out with hot water. A heat gun and sitting for a couple hours over an electric heater dried it out nicely.
It does look much better but it’s not like new. There’s still rusty patches but it’s at that point now where I don’t think it’ll be a problem.
I’m not going to pursue it with the acid as the tank doesn’t leak so I’m not going to push my luck any further.
The fuel bowl was corroded beyond use and was plugged so I have a new one to put in. I’ll install an in-line filter to catch what I didn’t.
I’ll clean the carb, the points, electrical connections and see if it’ll start. It sat 3 years because it wouldn’t run for him and he threw his hands up. If all that doesn’t get it to start I’ve got a hunch the coil is shot too. He has a young son that loves tractors, I’m thinking he might have left the key on and fried the coil.
Oh and after I get it to fire I’ll watch that oil pressure and prime it.
I’ll get a pic or to posted showing what the evaporust did. I’ll say one thing, the nuts I dropped into the tank to help clean it came out nice. :roll:
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby toehead » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:42 pm

Thanks for the update, sorry it didn't work as well on the cub tank as it does on my bike tanks!

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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:45 am

Just started with a bigger mess. If I gave it another shot with a fresh jug it’d probably come clean. The color of the evaporust went from clear to black and I had a lot of sand like rust in the utility sink when I sprayed it out.
It did get it to a usable condition though.
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Urbish » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:00 am

I'd still recommend an application of POR-15 to seal off whatever remains and stave off a return of the rust in the future.
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:26 pm

Underwood wrote:X2 on the evaporust. I had almost exactly the same situation, inside of the tank looked just like yours and too nice a paint job on the hood to risk messing it up. I waxed the hood, bought a 5 gallon pail of evaporust and let it sit in the tank for 3 days (instructions said 6 hours). Still had to rinse the tank with water several times to get out loose stuff but no issues since. Didn't hurt the paint either.


I think I'll try some of this Evaporust stuff. I've got some old crusty gas tanks that are pretty bad from parts tractors that need "saving". We shall see how well it will work. I wonder if it would work when using it in an electrolysis type situation? Like work with it to double the cleaning power?
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:20 pm

Urbish wrote:I'd still recommend an application of POR-15 to seal off whatever remains and stave off a return of the rust in the future.

Por15, this isn’t affected by direct contact to fuel?
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby toehead » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:40 pm

They make a fuel tank sealer. I've never used it, but have heard good things.

https://www.por15.com/POR-15-Fuel-Tank-Sealer

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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:21 am

When the weather got bitter in the single digits I had to walkway from my outdoor projects. Yes I know with the insane -40 below temps some of you got with that polar vortex single digits seems like working weather but I shifted to indoor honey-do’s for a week or two.
Back at my neighbors Cub I’ve been chasing electrical gremlins, bad grounds, a wasted ignition keyed switch, a distributor filled with water, crusty cap and rotor, re-solder the radiator drain, carb filled with crud and water, sediment bowl completely plugged with white corrosion, changed the engine oil but hey no water there! :worthy:
It was 63 yesterday so I got a full day in on it. I got it to a point where I could see if it’ll run on spray through the carb.
I did that so if it didn’t burp, show signs of life it’s easier to back up find and fix the problem with it disassembled rather than pull it all apart.
My first attempt got nothing so checking the points showed a problem there and led to cleaning out the distributor. Back together I got it to run on the spray for about two seconds.
Great! That was encouraging. I changed the oil and primed the pump in the process.
Later that evening I remounted the hood and retired the lights. I wired the lights with connectors so if it has to be pulled again the wires don’t have to be cut.
Today I’m going to hook up the fuel line and fire it up!
Before I drive it I’ll change the trans gear oil and steering box oil. Both will no doubt have plenty of water. After I return it to him I take it back in a couple of weeks to change the fluids again.
Next week I’ll mount the wheel weights I brought back from the bash (thanks Bill), and the L54 blade assembly I pieced together. (Thank you Rick for your help with that).
I didn’t repaint the tractor (don’t have time for that right now) but the parts I’m adding went from crusty rusty to pretty. ;)
Here’s a link to a video I made for him to see the progress I’ve made.
https://youtu.be/p9Wun3-yxxk
Note I’ll be repaid for the cash put out for parts but time and labor I’m eating. It’ll be worth it the first time I see him and his son plowing snow with it. :)
For all those at the DSCF I hope your all having a great weekend and I wish we could made it down, maybe some day, but as you can see I’m with you in spirit at the DSCF’s most northern outpost! :mrgreen:
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Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:00 am

How my day is progressing...
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Fuel lines on, it fires !
Smoking but expected as it burns off the marvel mystery oil I poured in the cylinders months back.
It’s running smooth though, not one miss! :D
https://youtu.be/QzQs8WpCVzs

Hooked up a meter to the battery to double check the amp gauge reading and it shows 14.6 volts. That’s charging in my book.
https://youtu.be/Oxu4H-gxLhk

Got a clue on the gauge issue, when I backed off the throttle to idle the gauge swung to charge. :roll:
The wiring is reversed! :roll:
not my work I swear!
:lol:
https://youtu.be/-ik8-kFs31w

I’ll let it cool down while I go in for lunch.
After lunch I’ll change the gear oil and drive it around for the first time in 3-4 years!
I’ll take it over to Glenn to give him some seat time . :)
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1 - ‘48 (5641) Allis Chalmers G
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:20 am

Gave Glenn the good news and thinking back he said you know, the last time he ran it was before the birth of his youngest son, over 5 years ago!
Wow, time goes by.
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1 - ‘48 (5641) Allis Chalmers G
Location: Farmingdale NJ

Re: Gas tank issue

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:21 pm

Gear oils changed, very little water found. Good. The steering box had been packed with grease and there’s no water inside. The grease hadn’t hardened up so I’ll leave it alone.
Time for a test ride. :)
https://youtu.be/3uEhHCE1VJ8
Runs well and the trans is quiet, though the video picks up a whine from it, it doesn’t sound that loud from the seat. The shifter goes into gear like butter.
Can’t wait to get Glenn and his son in the seat!
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