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Rick Prentice
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My new garden cub project

Postby Rick Prentice » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:12 pm

I've decided to finally attack this project and see where it takes me. Many years ago I bought an IH tiller at auction designed for the numbered series cubs. Since I like to challenged the limits of the cubs so I know in my mind if it works or don't work, now I can put this to rest once it's done. My goal is to set up a cub that will plow small gardens and then use the tiller too. If I can set up a cub that will do it all without changing attachments, that'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone, hopefully.

I'm using my old mowing cub that's always been a strong runner.
54 project cub.jpg


Next I removed the woods mower and installed the Hester disc plow I just bought from Jeff Silvey. I noticed it doesn't have the normal Hester front lifting setup but the IH 152 chain lift. I'm excited about that because the plow fit perfect for me.
Hester disc cub.jpg


Next, I did some work to the IH tiller, fabbed a newer style pto shaft from TSC because the tiller only came with 1/2 a shaft when I bought it. It would've been too expensive making up the missing shaft pieces. I also found some new tines that are real close the the originals. Hopefully they'll work fine, time will tell.
finished tiller pic.jpg


I have the low range unit that I bought from Phil Lenke years ago and I also kept my 3 point hydraulic lift setup for the cub. I'll need to fab some new spacer brackets for the 3 point and the Hester, but that'll be fun. I'll keep things updated as I go. The first thing I need to do is make a new seal plate for the low range unit.

Outside I go the get started,
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Rick Prentice » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:18 pm

I know I'll get pro's and con's about what I'm attempting. Please reply with all the negatives and we'll see if you're right or wrong :{_}: I love a good challenge and have No problem if it doesn't work out, least I'll put this to rest. Been thinking about it for maybe 10 years now. The dyno prooved a good running F-cub can out preform a good running numbered cub, so power shouldn't be the deciding factor.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Cubfriend » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:22 pm

I will be curious to see how the seal plate looks when it’s all done.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Stanton » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:41 pm

More power to ya, Rick. Hope it exceeds your expectations.

Looking forward to following along...
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Rick Prentice » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:13 pm

I just came in from doing some more on the project. Here's the low range unit and the beginning of the seal plate.
seal plate.jpg


I need to machine this drawing and figure the best way to attach it to the plate to prevent leakage, like rivets, gasket, sealant, etc.
seal hub.jpg


I snapped the new pto unit from TSC onto the cub pto shaft. I fitted the hubcity adapter first. Looks like it snaps on nice and should work great, hopefully.
pto hooked.jpg


The Hester slid back another severals inches and attached to the 3point plates I made and should work perfect.
Hester rear mount.jpg


Some of the hydraulics used for the 3 point. I need to fit everything and also give everything a good bath.
3point hydraulics.jpg


Once I get everything fitted and I'm satisfied things will work OK, I'll finish the seal plate and make the heavy duty final spacer, used once the low range unit is installed. Looks like the unit is about 4-3/4" wide so that's what the spacer final mount needs to be. I have the factory brake extension.

More tomorrow.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Barnyard » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:41 pm

Rick Prentice wrote:Many years ago I bought an IH tiller at auction designed for the numbered series cubs.

Was the tiller designed for the numbered series cubs or was the auction designed for the numbered series cubs.

Rick Prentice wrote: installed the Hester disc plow I just bought from Jeff Silvey. I noticed it doesn't have the normal Hester front lifting setup

:shock: Hmmm...what was Jeff thinking? :lol:

Rick Prentice wrote:Next, I did some work to the IH tiller, fabbed a newer style pto shaft from TSC because the tiller only came with 1/2 a shaft when I bought it. It would've been too expensive making up the missing shaft pieces. I also found some new tines that are real close the the originals. Hopefully they'll work fine, time will tell.

Rick, I have seen the work you do. I know this will be another masterpiece from the master himself

I have a vision of a great, new company on the horizon!
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Rick Prentice » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:19 am

I have a vision of a great, new company on the horizon!


It would be KUBKRAFT, Very Ltd.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Slim140 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:27 am

Rick Prentice wrote:
I have a vision of a great, new company on the horizon!


It would be KUBKRAFT, Very Ltd.

Can we buy stock in that company, those of us with Very Ltd. funds?

Good looking project Rick, can't wait to see it in action.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:27 am

Rick Prentice wrote:Please reply with all the negatives and we'll see if you're right or wrong :{_}: I love a good challenge and have No problem if it doesn't work out, least I'll put this to rest. Been thinking about it for maybe 10 years now.

What could be negative???? There is nowhere to go but forward with such ambition! I love the ingenuity!

I have no real familiarity with the low-range setup on a cub. I thought these get installed between the transmission and the final. Please explain what the additional seal plate is for.

Just out of curiosity, which tines did you go with?
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:43 am

Here is the prototype you made for my cub in 2005. Not sure why you would have trouble remembering what you did. :lol: It has been in service, both tilling and mowing in unusual circumstances, with the only maintenance on the entire assembly being the oil checked every spring, and oil changed 3 times when it was moved to a different tractor. I always do my mowing and tilling with the tractor that has been most recently refurbished.

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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Rick Prentice » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:18 pm

Boy, I definetly dont remember that. Wonder where I got that triangle piece. My new version will be high tech :hattip: Sorry John.
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:45 pm

Off hand, I'd say it looks like one of these. -- Lots of sources!
https://www.partstree.com/parts/exmark/parts/1-513013/

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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:50 pm

According to the number I could see on the flange after I enlarged the photo, this would be another possibility. T52MSTR
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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:59 pm

I think it is the same possibility.

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Re: My new garden cub project

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:05 pm

Jim Becker wrote:I think it is the same possibility.
Functionally yes, I was referring to source.
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