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Ag tire question

Postby inairam » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:58 pm

I have seen cubs with Ag tires where one or both of the tires are on what I consider backwards - the chevron pointing to the back of the tractor when you look at it from the top

Is there a legitimate reason for mounting like this or is it just a mistake. I know you may end up that way if the owner was going for a certain wheel spacing but I am thinking about the tread. Does an ag tire do less damage to the turf if it is mounted backward? One each way helps if you have to back up?

Just curious.
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Re: Ag tire question

Postby indy61 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:13 pm

Not much difference if you reverse.
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Re: Ag tire question

Postby tnestell » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:56 pm

I have been asked why tractor tires are not mounted this way by persons thinking that they would get more traction that way. My thought was that they clean themselves out when mounted the correct way.
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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Glen » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Hi,
My friend had a Cub with rear ag tires, with normal 45 degree bars, and good tread. It had 1 on backwards for a while.
It worked poor, the one on backwards spun when the Cub needed to pull more than usual, when going ahead.
He changed it to facing the right way eventually. :)

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Waif » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:53 pm

Not saying I subscribe....But there was a claim of reduced wheel hop on hard surfaces like roads.
My theory sometimes is , some one mounted it backwards , and then figured out why after......

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Urbish » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:14 pm

When mounted backwards on anything but pavement, any material scraped away by wheel slip will be pulled to the center, lifting the tire and further reducing traction.
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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Crimson Tim » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:59 am

Never heard a legitimate reason for doing it backwards, except that swapping wheels side to side requires double the lifting and jacking apparatus of just turning each wheel around individually to change wheel spacing.

On an interesting (or not) side note, I have a ground-driven spreader with little Ag tires on it that are oriented the same way as the tractor. Since the ground is driving the equipment, they should have been put on “backwards”. Someone must have decided it looked better with tractor and spreader tires all oriented the same way.

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:40 am

Crimson Tim wrote:On an interesting (or not) side note, I have a ground-driven spreader with little Ag tires on it that are oriented the same way as the tractor. Since the ground is driving the equipment, they should have been put on “backwards”. Someone must have decided it looked better with tractor and spreader tires all oriented the same way.

You see that at tractor shows all the time, not just spreaders. I've seen the same on ground lift plows and such. I see it as a way to announce to the world "I don't know what I am doing and would be in big trouble if I ever actually went into a field."

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby cub&catman » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:39 pm

Farmers will put the tires on backwards when they have loaders on so if they bog down they always have the traction to get out. On combines they do the same thing on the powered back axle to keek from getting stuck in a wet area.

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:16 pm

Tires like those above look similar to a paddle tires used for buggies and ATVs used in deep sand. We have deep sugar sand roads in our NJ pine barrens and I wonder if a tractor with low pressure and reversed tread would fare better in those conditions. Thought it’d be nice to use a Cub to pull a hayride through the pines.
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Re: Ag tire question

Postby bdefayette » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:27 pm

Ground driven equipment (manure spreaders and the like) work best with the tires mounted "backwards" where the "V" actually "catches" the turf rather than moving it to the side. Mounting tires "backwards" on a tractor actually improves tire life exponentially when it's used mainly on hard surfaces (roads, i.e. parades, tours, etc.). A friend of mine found this out on his cross country trips using a "green" tractor. :) http://helpamericanheroes.com/

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby BigBill » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:36 pm

I think when there on backwards they force the mud inwards. When there on the so called right direction they force the mud outwards. Does it make a difference the jury is still out. Lol I’m not sure yet.

On my truck with directional Armstrong met’s I tried them both ways the points forward and the points reversed. They seem to run equal traction wise both directions. I never got stuck.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Ag tire question

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:00 pm

BigBill wrote:. . . Does it make a difference the jury is still out. . . .

All the difference in the world.


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