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Alternator for 47 cub

Postby RedTom » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:54 pm

My understanding is that early cubs pulley on fan is smaller diameter than later cubs. Does this make a difference when choosing a 12 volt alternator for upgrade to 12 volt system. Want to make sure it will work with what I assume would be lowered RPM from a smaller pulley.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby inairam » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:10 am

Redtom

The early cubs did have a different fan hub assembly. I have only converted 12-volt cubs to an alternator but I do not recall ever reading on the forum of anyone switching the hub on an early cub to do the conversion.

The ask a different question why are you planning the switch?
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby Shane Nelson » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:05 pm

I converted our ‘47 to 12V and didn’t even think about the pulley size. Been working good for a couple years with no issues.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby RedTom » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:23 pm

Needs new battery and 12 volts would be handy to be able to run sprayer or brighter lights
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:57 pm

Do you plan to keep the magneto or convert (or change it) to a battery ignition?

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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby jsfarmall » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:22 am

I converted my 48s to 12v but I don't know if they are smaller like your 47 your talking about. If they are in have no issues. A 12v upgrade is definitely a plus. You will get a little criticism from.the purists but in today's times a 12v alternator and battery is about the same.price as getting just the generator fixed or finding a 6v battery in most places

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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby inairam » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:52 am

jsfarmall wrote:I You will get a little criticism from.the purists


I like my 6 volt systems. Just gives me something different to think about. If you have a reason to convert like running a sprayer, more lighting or anything increasing the electrical load for that matter that is a good plan in my opinion. A 6-volt cub with a generator and the standard lights on can just bearly keep up with the electrical load. ( BTW there are a number of 12 LED options at the 12-volt negative ground that fit into the teardrop lights. It will save you ~5-7 amps at 12 volts)

My issue is when people say they are converting "to make it easier to start". I have started my 6v cubs in 2nd gear to demonstrate you can start fine with 6 volts. I once by accident started a 6 volt in gear with the PTO engaged driving a Mott mower I have started my cub in winter ( Philidelphia, PA area) after 4-5 weeks of sitting.

A 12 v conversion does not help a carburetor that needs an overhaul or a cub in need of a tune-up.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby Glen » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:00 pm

Hi,
IH made the generator pulley size bigger in 1953, starting at Cub serial number 165153, Raymond Durban's database says.
On the Cubs I have seen, it makes the generator start charging at a slower speed to have the bigger pulley.
If your fan assembly has been replaced, then it could have either size pulley.

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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby RedTom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:47 am

Thanks for the replies and suggestions
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby RedTom » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:46 am

I should've searched the now to forum, excellent how to "Re: I will be installing an alternatior on this original cub". Also note on which NAPA alternator that works with smaller fan pulley. Thanks again.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby Papa's Cub » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:46 pm

RedTom wrote:I should've searched the now to forum, excellent how to "Re: I will be installing an alternatior on this original cub". Also note on which NAPA alternator that works with smaller fan pulley. Thanks again.

RedTom, On October 17, on the Vine, forum member Red-Bud posted an option using a smaller racing alternator that could be easily installed using the existing brackets with minimal alterations. At $39.00 for a new alternator it's reasonable prices too! Good luck, Tom.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:43 pm

I believe that was Cub-Bud.

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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby Cub-Bud » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:50 pm

Yep, it was me. And now, I can't find that thread/post. I didn't delete it and it doesn't show up in my posts.
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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Cub-Bud wrote:Yep, it was me. And now, I can't find that thread/post. I didn't delete it and it doesn't show up in my posts.

This is the oldest post on THE VINE, dated November 17. viewtopic.php?f=223&t=102619 I believe there is a limit on the days a post will be displayed there.

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Re: Alternator for 47 cub

Postby ShawnAgne » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:55 pm

On my two tractors the cub definitely needs to rev higher for the alternator to kick in compared to the 300. If you are converting might want to check into electronic ignition, did that also when I converted. The LED lights are awesome, highly recommend them, you'll find reasons to use it at night.
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