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Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:57 pm

ok i think its a B AC, small little thing, wide front, is supposed to be rebuilt then left sit outside, a year ago I saw it move a tiny little bit but its very close to seized. now , the good news, I am gonna trade some old batteries for it. I know that dead batteries are at .30 a pound here abouts but but I will clean them out and also get a continental flat four I think that was a generator, the powerhead is gone but the rest is there, radiator etc.

hey if it has an engine I am interested in it, thinking about making one of the low rider things :P
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:39 am

Post a picture?

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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:07 pm

got around to taking some pics

the B
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:13 pm

the continental 4, i think about 40HP, was a civil defense 15KW 3 phase genset
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:15 pm

Yep, looks like a B, looks like a non adjustable wishbone front axle. SN is on a boss by the shift lever, If the first character is a B, it's a B, if it's a C then it's a C. Don't know why the right side axle looks wider than the left. Maybe optical illusion. Looks like a wide drawbar which might indicate a C. I've got some Allis info if you need something let me know.
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:20 pm

I found out one thing, you cant tell by the SN, the tranny is the same for a B and and a C, so over the years many were swapped out. I have nevr seen a narrow tricycle B, they are Cs. That being said there are some Cs with B marked trannys. also I have never seen this style wide front on a C. but, this has a C SN and says its a 48. I think the tractor is newer than that, but who knows when they used the same tranny and chose that location for the SN
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:28 pm

RC was made during that time period. Probably some parts will interchange also.

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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:08 pm

Here's my 1949 B with AC Industrial sickle mower:
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:17 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:Here's my 1949 B with AC Industrial sickle mower: DCP_0003a.JPG



wow that is VERY nice!!!!
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby Indy4570 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:23 pm

I was told my B had a sickle mower, it has 2 angle iron chunks cut off, bolted to it just like your mower
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby staninlowerAL » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:24 am

Thanks. It's not the same tractor but identical to the one my Grandfather had when I was a kid. First tractor I ever remember driving at age 8.

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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby john2189 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:24 pm

Because of the wide back axle, That’s a c with a b front axle. They had to change the steering box too,the c is backwards. But if it has a 4 speed trans then it would be an rc
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby SONNY » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:36 pm

I have 3 B's. a 38 hand crank,hand brake levers, no starter or generator. a 40 hand brake levers,starter but no generator and 48 electric start, generator, and foot brakes.---The B in your pic does look like a C rear end. The B is not much wider than a cub. thanks; sonny
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Re: Alice Chalmers B?

Postby 1954Frank » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:45 pm

The C rear axle may look offset due to one wheel dish in and the other dish out. Definitely a B wishbone front and B steering box. As others have commented, I think it's a tractor built from parts and pieces of other tractors. Whatever it is I hope you enjoy it.


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