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Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby leerenovations » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:34 am

I was surfing and found this inof on how to add live hydraulics to a Ford Nseries. Anyone who owns one of these know what a pain it is to not have hydraulics when you push in the clutch.

http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs ... ctions.pdf
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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby Super A » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:22 pm

leerenovations wrote:I was surfing and found this inof on how to add live hydraulics to a Ford Nseries. Anyone who owns one of these know what a pain it is to not have hydraulics when you push in the clutch.

http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs ... ctions.pdf


THE BEST WAY TO CONVERT TO LIVE HYDRAULICS ON A N-SERIES FORD

By Super A

1. Drive N-series Ford out of shed.
2. Drive JD 1020, 820 (3 cylinder diesel), 830 (3 cylinder diesel), 1520, 1530, 2040, 2240, 2350, 2355 or IH 404, 424, 464, 484, or CaseIH 395, or even a MF 135, (scratch that, I believe the 135 didn't have live hyd. either) MF 240 etc. into the N-Series Ford's place. (Any of these tractors are the same shape/size as the N-series Ford, but have way more hp, way better hydraulics, pretty much way better everything. Even the MF's. The MF, to be totally honest, would be a last resort)
3. Sell N-series Ford.
4. Conversion completed. :{_}:

NOTE: This same conversion works on all grey Fergies as well. In fact, it probably works even better. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby ricky racer » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:11 pm

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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby leerenovations » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:01 pm

The only way a JD wuld be on my property is if someone broke down on the road and I let them park it overnight out of the goodness of my heart.
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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby Super A » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:02 am

leerenovations wrote:The only way a JD wuld be on my property is if someone broke down on the road and I let them park it overnight out of the goodness of my heart.


I don't expect to make any converts, I totally understand brand loyalty and I am IH to the bone, but I will not say too much bad about JD. The most profitable tractor ever to live on our farm is probably our early 80s model 2940. Dependable, dependable, dependable, plus comfortable to operate. Later Fords, like the 3000, were pretty good but I have never been on the seat of one so I cannot say from experience. To me a Ford is just a blue MF.

That said, there is no way, I mean NOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAY I would ever allow one of these to roll up on my place:
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When I could have one of these for about the same money:
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or one of these (already do :D ):
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or for a little more, one of these:
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one of these:
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one of these:
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or, heaven forbid, for some more money even one of these:
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or one of these:
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All of the above take about as much space as the ferd, but can do way more work, and do it way more comfortably. Yes some of them are 40 years newer, but the fact still remains: like it or not, Deere had the pants beat off everyone else when it came to operator comfort, and I think on the smaller tractors the gap was even wider. I spent some time on a 2240 set up just like the one above, and it was just as comfortable to run as our 2940, even though the 29 has a flat platform. Nice seat, good power steering, responsive hydraulics, and eight forward speeds. It was nimble as a cat and had excellent power for its size.

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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby leerenovations » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:11 pm

The first tractor I ever drove was a Ford 8n growing up. Dad kept it because it was so good on gas. And an 8N will dost anything that has to be done on a small ranch/ farm as long as you understand its limits. And they are so easy to get parts for and you can also buy one almost anywhere for around 1000. I love IH with all my heart. Hell, my truck has a vanity plate that reads "Farmall". But the Ford 8n is a close freind.
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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby Rudi » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:22 am

Somewhere my wife's paternal pepere's ?n is still out there workin it's heart out. Yvon sold it a few years ago to get his Universal. The Ford did a good job on the farm hauling hay and other implements but only that which was within it's operating envelope. Hey it even hauled wood. The family had it for almost 60 years I guess before it got sold. Good ole tractor ......
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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby Jack fowler » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:53 am

It’s funny how things differ from one part of the country to the other on tractor taste. In my area you can’t hardy give away a Super A or even a Cub unless you have equipment and even then you have to take a big hit. I personally took a big hit on my Super A….that really hurt because it was my Grandfathers tractor. The Cub I grew up with, which I have completely redone with all the implements’ was overlooked by a person to buy a Ford N.

A friend who repairs and rebuilds tractors for the weekend/small Farmer tells me the Ford N’s are a big hit with the live hydraulics’ installed along with the Zang thing and converted to 12 Volt ignitions. Other tractors in big demand are the M/F 135, M/F 40 Industrial Back Hoe, regular Fergusons and Kubota’s. He said the big problem with Super A’s and Cub’s is the way the implements have to be put on along with no three point hitch.

My family which farms 1500 acres uses mostly JD and some M/F. As the JD’s wear out we are going to a lease program which is New Holland and Arco (Fiat). Every three years the tractors are replaced.

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Re: Adding live hydraulics to a Ford 8N

Postby Super A » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:14 am

JackF wrote:It’s funny how things differ from one part of the country to the other on tractor taste. In my area you can’t hardy give away a Super A or even a Cub unless you have equipment and even then you have to take a big hit. I personally took a big hit on my Super A….that really hurt because it was my Grandfathers tractor. The Cub I grew up with, which I have completely redone with all the implements’ was overlooked by a person to buy a Ford N.

A friend who repairs and rebuilds tractors for the weekend/small Farmer tells me the Ford N’s are a big hit with the live hydraulics’ installed along with the Zang thing and converted to 12 Volt ignitions. Other tractors in big demand are the M/F 135, M/F 40 Industrial Back Hoe, regular Fergusons and Kubota’s. He said the big problem with Super A’s and Cub’s is the way the implements have to be put on along with no three point hitch.

My family which farms 1500 acres uses mostly JD and some M/F. As the JD’s wear out we are going to a lease program which is New Holland and Arco (Fiat). Every three years the tractors are replaced.



I think the Cub, Super A /100/130/140 are still popular here because people "know" them. As far as utility, no you can't beat a smallish 3 point hitch tractor, although IMO aside from three point equipment, the direct connected Farmall implements are the easiest of all of the older tractors to deal with. I know that a lot of people have installed three points on various farmalls, but it is not the same as one "made" for it. I have just never liked the N's because you can buy a newer MF or "classic" IH or for a little more, a "classic" JD that is the same basic size/shape as the N but they can do so much more.

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