Lookie what I found...

Farmall Super A, AV, 1939 - 1954

Moderator: Team Cub

Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.

Lookie what I found...

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:03 pm

Keeping an eye on Craigs list yeilded this 1946 AI, Industrial A.
Uh...ya, I need another tractor much less another project like a hole in the head but I couldn't resist after seeing that most of the hard to find parts were there. :roll:
I put a hand crank on it and it fired briefly but sounded strong. It was enough to feel that the core of the motor was good.
The carb will need cleaning for sure. It has the origional 6 volt generator and mag ignition. I was suprised to see the fan shroud was still in place too.

Image
Image

The foot throttle and linkage is still there.
Image

The tires are smaller than I'd like being 8.3x24 but they are new.
Image

While the pipe is new, its too big. I'd trade it for the proper one that is smaller given the chance.
Image
Image

Like alot of the pre-supers this had the liftall at one time.
I have to assume that the bracket in the steering post was part of the lift-all linkage.
Image
Image

Heres something interesting, the wheel centers are actually weights. New one for me.
This one had a regular weight bolted to it. Wonder what they weigh.
Image

The drawbar and PTO are a bonus. The one fender thats there is badly rusted.
Image


The 3 lamps are there and I believe very restore-able.
Image

The other nice thing is though the fender has rust through the rest of the tractor has very little rust. I haven't had a chance to try narrowing the front axle but it is clean and rust free. I don't expect it to be a problem but the steering linkage may be another story. Wish me luck with that.
Incidentally, the purchase price was about what Tucker tire would charge for those rear tires without shipping.
Like I said, I couldn't resist. :roll:
Mike.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Bill Hudson » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:16 pm

Nice one!
"The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop." Edwin Conklin, biologist
Bill Hudson
Team Cub
Team Cub
 
Posts: 6387
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:50 am
Location: OH, Madison
Zip Code: 44057
Tractors Owned: :
57 F-Cub
64 Lo-Boy
68 Lo-Boy
52 F-Cub
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:29 pm

That bracket may have been for radiator shutters rather than lift-all. A cast right wheel and sheet metal left wheel were normal on the A to compensate for the lighter weight on the right side.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government
to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the
government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." Patrick Henry
User avatar
John *.?-!.* cub owner
Team Cub Guide
Team Cub Guide
 
Posts: 19457
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:09 pm
Location: Mo, Potosi
Zip Code: 63664
Tractors Owned: 47, 48, 49 cub plus Wagner loader & other attachments. 41 Farmall H.

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Brendan In NC » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:00 am

Very nice AI Really would like to get one one day!! :mrgreen:
after a little work have it look like this Baby HaHa :D
491636_lrg.jpg
Tractors are like watermelons..Eat the red and throw away the green!!
Brendan Dixon Greenville NC
1964 Farmall Cub #223883
1964 Farmall 140 #27512
Tractorguy140, YouTube
User avatar
Brendan In NC
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
 
Posts: 413
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:54 pm
Location: Greenville N.C
Zip Code: 27858
Tractors Owned: 1964 Farmall Cub Red Square Nose # 223883 one of 2300 built before they switch to Yellow and White. Tractor was nicknamed Oscar by my Grandma and the lil feller is pretty much Tight as can be no wear any where other than that paint being awful! HaHa

1964 Farmall 140 #27512
Just a Clean Strong run of the mill Farmall 140 with very little Wear.

Also have a bit of equipment
Woods C-42 Belly mower, 1963 IH McCormick #215 Plow, IH #144 Cultivators, IH Side Dresser (in need of some work non working at the moment)

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Brendan In NC » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:01 am

The little cast piece on the steering tower is for the push rod for the starter :wink:
Tractors are like watermelons..Eat the red and throw away the green!!
Brendan Dixon Greenville NC
1964 Farmall Cub #223883
1964 Farmall 140 #27512
Tractorguy140, YouTube
User avatar
Brendan In NC
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
 
Posts: 413
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:54 pm
Location: Greenville N.C
Zip Code: 27858
Tractors Owned: 1964 Farmall Cub Red Square Nose # 223883 one of 2300 built before they switch to Yellow and White. Tractor was nicknamed Oscar by my Grandma and the lil feller is pretty much Tight as can be no wear any where other than that paint being awful! HaHa

1964 Farmall 140 #27512
Just a Clean Strong run of the mill Farmall 140 with very little Wear.

Also have a bit of equipment
Woods C-42 Belly mower, 1963 IH McCormick #215 Plow, IH #144 Cultivators, IH Side Dresser (in need of some work non working at the moment)

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Bob Perry » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:39 am

Wow Lt. Mike you done good !
REMEMBER: Keep it correct or you may face the

Image
User avatar
Bob Perry
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 1838
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:30 pm
Location: Dartmouth, Massachusetts
Zip Code: 02748
Tractors Owned: :

1949 Farmall Cub / FH

1951 Farmall Cub / IH mower

1964 International Cub Lo-Boy / Woods 59 mower

1967 International Cub / FH

1946 Farmall H

1949 Farmall H

a doodle bug

More than a dozen Cub Cadets running plus a few in the bone-yard

.

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Lt.Mike » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:40 am

Hey I was giving serious thought to it painting yellow. I really don't think it'll be much trouble stripping and repainting this one.
Its pretty clean. My other A has yellow popping out under the red everywhere. This tractor doesn't appear to have any yellow that I can see. I'll go over it later today a little harder to see if I can find some. I'm not 100% but I think some of the industrials came red.
If this is one of them it'll be red again when its done. I believe I know of one place to get the International tank decals too.
The starter rod is in its proper place as it is on my other A so I don't think its for that. The pivoting arm under the tank next to the fuel filter is for a lift all and my other A has that too. The steering post was swapped out on that tractor so i don't know if it had a similar bracket.
Radiator shutters? Ok gonna have to look for other evidence of that. There is one rear weight bolted to the right rear wheel but I think that one has a cast center too. Do you think those centers could be used on a cub? If so I could see my Lo-boy benifiting from the combined weight of rear weights mounted on cast centers for plowing snow.
Incidentally the bottom line for this one was $550. I thought that was a safe gamble.
My intent is to pick away here and there on it and get it in dependable running order. Then give it a proper cosmetic redo, new seat and paint. Figure around my way it'll be used mainly for towing chores, hayrides or a brush trailer (heavy yard, light farm work).
I was so glad to see it already had a drawbar mounted for that. :D
I'm thinking that its going to take about $400 in parts to complete the tractor.
(new flipup padded pan seat $170 (make it pretty), battery box $100, fender(s) $50-$100, battery $50...)
When my fun in refurbishing it is done I'll probably pass it on to a new home.
Mike.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Denny Clayton » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:07 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:That bracket may have been for radiator shutters rather than lift-all. A cast right wheel and sheet metal left wheel were normal on the A to compensate for the lighter weight on the right side.

That continued right on up through the 140's.
'61 Lo-Boy
'60 FH Lo-Boy
'60 Lo-Boy
'57 FH Cub "Rusty"
'56 FH Cub
(2) '48 Cubs
'75 IH 140 w/1000 loader
C-3 mower, FH Woods 42F, 22 sickle (2), 54A blade, L-54 blade, 194 plow, FH L-38 disk, FH LB disk, 144 cultivators, FH platform carrier
User avatar
Denny Clayton
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3666
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:18 pm
Location: OH, Sidney
Zip Code: 45365
Tractors Owned: Home to "Rusty", the 2007 and 2009 Cub Tug Champion.
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Rudi » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:38 pm

Mike:

That is a nice AI. They are kind of interesting tractors. Like the new shoes too. Every time I come over to this forum I see/learn something new. :D I do like the yaller ones..... :big what: , which is surprising cause I usually just like RED :big smile:
Confusion breeds Discussion which breeds Knowledge which breeds Confidence which breeds Friendship

User avatar
Rudi
Team Cub
Team Cub
 
Posts: 28471
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 8:37 pm
Location: NB Dieppe, Canada
Zip Code: E1A7J3
eBay ID: ve9rhs
Skype Name: R.H. "Rudi" Saueracker, SSM
Tractors Owned: 1947 Cub "Granny"
1948 Cub "Ellie-Mae"
1951 Cub "Jethro"
Dad's Putt-Putt
IH 129 CC
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y
Twitter ID: Rudi Saueracker, SSM

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Matt Kirsch » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:56 pm

One wheel center on all of the A/Super A/100/130/140 is a heavy cast. It should be on the right wheel to keep the tractor from tipping over to the left on side hills.

The old-time equivalent of 8.3x24 is the stock tire for the A.
Matt Kirsch
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3346
Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:04 pm
Location: Rochester, NY
Zip Code: 14559
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Lt.Mike » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:24 pm

With the hubbub of the holiday I haven't much time to play but I gave the tractor a better going over after church today.
Both rear centers are cast on this one.I went over it scratching here and there with my pocket knife and produced nothing yellow, anywhere.
The paint is faded and was last done with a brush. I seriously doubt that anyone that would paint a tractor with a brush would prep for paint by stripping all the original paint from the tractor. I have to assume this one came red.
The brake is froze but that should be ok with a little gentle persuasion.
I cranked the engine yesterday and got nothing. Today I got a really strong response but it ran for only about 5 seconds. The fuel strainer has about a 1/4" of crud in it so a good cleaning of everything from the strainer to the carb will make things right.
To replace the front mismatched tires, ones a space saver spare, and to make a balance with the 8.3 rears I think a set of smaller 4.00x15 tri-rib tires will look better.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:35 pm

This may be a stupid question... but am I correct in assuming this is a 6 volt battery because there are 3 filler caps? :oops:

The PO bought it but couldn't tell be if it was 6 or 12 volt and I can't find any markings on the battery indicating either.
Everything I've worked with for the longest time has been 12 volt so this is somewhat embarrassing not being 100% just looking at it.
Mike.
Image
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Super A » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:51 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:With the hubbub of the holiday I haven't much time to play but I gave the tractor a better going over after church today.
Both rear centers are cast on this one.I went over it scratching here and there with my pocket knife and produced nothing yellow, anywhere.
The paint is faded and was last done with a brush. I seriously doubt that anyone that would paint a tractor with a brush would prep for paint by stripping all the original paint from the tractor. I have to assume this one came red.
The brake is froze but that should be ok with a little gentle persuasion.
I cranked the engine yesterday and got nothing. Today I got a really strong response but it ran for only about 5 seconds. The fuel strainer has about a 1/4" of crud in it so a good cleaning of everything from the strainer to the carb will make things right.
To replace the front mismatched tires, ones a space saver spare, and to make a balance with the 8.3 rears I think a set of smaller 4.00x15 tri-rib tires will look better.



Mike I agree on the 4.00-15's. IIRC they used the same rims for 4.00 or 5.00's.

If you want a "thin" wheel center, I have one.

Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates

Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
User avatar
Super A
10+ Years
10+ Years
 
Posts: 3435
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 am
Location: NC, Jacksonville area
Zip Code: 28521
Tractors Owned: 1949 Cub "The Paperweight"
Cub powered IH 52R combine
Grandfather's 1948 Super A
White demo Super A-"Ol Whitey"
1950 Super A "Old Ugly"
1954 Super A-1
856
Buncha other junk
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:31 pm

Lt.Mike wrote:am I correct in assuming this is a 6 volt battery because there are 3 filler caps?

Six-volt. Based on the terminals, it looks like a deep-cycle battery.
User avatar
Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
 
Posts: 11923
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 3:14 pm
Location: MN
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety Award
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: Lookie what I found...

Postby Lt.Mike » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:38 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Lt.Mike wrote:am I correct in assuming this is a 6 volt battery because there are 3 filler caps?

Six-volt. Based on the terminals, it looks like a deep-cycle battery.

Thats a good point I hadn't picked up on. Tell you what this is one of the heaviest batteries I have ever lifted.
This should also be a positive ground being six volt right?
It was hooked up as negative ground and cranked the motor right over.
I'm worried that if I have it negative and it should be positive ground will the generator be damaged?

Thanks Al I'll let you know. That be the only part I left you with. :lol:

I was also thinking as I now have two A's to restore I should probably stop being cheap and spring for a grill repair tool set too. :wink:
Mike.
Quote by Gary Pickeral I like
"If it can cast a shadow, it can be restored"
User avatar
Lt.Mike
5+ Years
5+ Years
 
Posts: 601
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:38 am
Location: Farmingdale NJ
Zip Code: 07727
Tractors Owned: '58 International Cub Lo-Boy
2 - '46 International A's

Next

Return to Farmall A, Super A, AV

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests