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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Dusti Snider » Wed May 16, 2012 6:23 am

I bought mine from yesterdays tractors.com It was a Tisco kit and had everything I needed. Price and shipping were great...
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby artc » Thu May 17, 2012 9:37 am

I plan on pulling the the head after everything is freed up. Hopefully I can get away with a little honing to clean up the cylinders and replace the rings. I will also look at the bearings and valves as well.


if you are going to pull the head anyway, do it now so you can drive the pistons down as well as up, keeping in mind the position of the crank journals, of course.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby BucketHead » Thu May 17, 2012 9:50 pm

artc wrote:
if you are going to pull the head anyway, do it now so you can drive the pistons down as well as up, keeping in mind the position of the crank journals, of course.


The only reason I haven't done that yet is I don't have a place to pull the head at the moment. The tractor is sitting in my yard where we have been "tinkering." My neighbor has offered space in his garage..as soon as he gets his drag car out of the bay. So, I am trying to do whatever we can until the garage space opens up.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby artc » Fri May 18, 2012 10:01 am

when you gwet it tore down and need to remove the sleeves, i have a puller with the correct size puck.
i'm only probably only an hour away. bring the block - i'll get them out
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Matt Kirsch » Fri May 18, 2012 1:45 pm

This one's a little hairy...

Once you get the head off, fill the stuck cylinder with diesel fuel, roll the tractor outside, and LIGHT IT.

Your little bonfire in the cylinder will often loosen up the piston enough for it to start moving again.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Mr Joshua » Fri May 18, 2012 2:30 pm

Matt Kirsch wrote:This one's a little hairy...

Once you get the head off, fill the stuck cylinder with diesel fuel, roll the tractor outside, and LIGHT IT.

Your little bonfire in the cylinder will often loosen up the piston enough for it to start moving again.

that's what i'm talking about!! Piro!! :lol:
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Jason (IL) » Fri May 18, 2012 3:24 pm

I have a buddy who soaks em for a month and if they don't free up he made a fitting for the end of a Port Power or Ram Jet. He pumps it full and the pistons usually pop right out. Make sure you disconnect the rods first though. I have seen him do it and it works really quick. I have also seen him apply a light amount of heat to the sleeves.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby BucketHead » Fri May 25, 2012 5:14 pm

Thanks for the additional input guys.

I have to admit that this isn't the first time I've heard the "light it on fire" method and know some guys that swear by it.

Art, thanks for the offer of pulling the sleeves...I believe that you will be hearing from me.

My father has suggested the spark plug adapter with a zerk fitting and using a grease gun to provide the pressure to unstick the piston...I like the port-a-power idea too.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby BucketHead » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:37 pm

Yesterday we removed the head from the the M and confirmed that #2 is the only stuck piston. It appears that there was a slight weep at the head gasket that allowed coolant to drip into the cylinder and cause the problem. At this point I am really tempted to just pull the motor and do a rebuild...it has been sitting for a long time and I bet the front and rear main seals are like rock. I would also like to see all of the sludge cleaned out of the engine. I'd do new sleeves, rings, bearings, and seals. Then maybe valves depending how they looked.

Anybody want to talk me out of this??
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby artc » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:46 am

Anybody want to talk me out of this??


nope. you will know what you have when you are done. oh, on the valves, they need to be done, no question.

i have a sleeve puller that fits those sleeves, if you need it.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby BucketHead » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:51 pm

artc wrote:
Anybody want to talk me out of this??


nope. you will know what you have when you are done. oh, on the valves, they need to be done, no question.

i have a sleeve puller that fits those sleeves, if you need it.


Well...it's settled. I will drop the head off tomorrow and then start cribbing under the transmission. Also, you are certainly on my list when it comes time to pull the sleeves. Wow, that was easy! :D
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Ida Red » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:31 pm

Use a 'black smith' anvil and some juice.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby artc » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:27 pm

any progress?
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Ida Red » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:18 pm

Hey BucketHead did you ever get that old M freed up. If you haven't let me know. I have an idea that may work.
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Re: Farmall M --stuck

Postby Ida Red » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:30 pm

You don't seem to communicate very well ...or you have solved the problem.
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