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TC Block Help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:44 am

I'm rebuilding tc block on my '52
the internal parts are different (picture)than the help topic and parts/service manual
there was 3/8" sludge in the bottom of the res I'd like to completely disassemble if possible
there is a 1" dia slotted "fitting"(picture) holding a spring loaded ball
fitting visible when head is removed
is this removable???
does anyone have parts pictures / tips for reassembly :?:
tc1.JPG
THE PARTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE BLOCK


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return this eve
any ideas words of wisdom are :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:
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IS THIS PART REMOVABLE?
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howhow1
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Tractors Owned: 52 cub "Big Ed" FH
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23 - A disc
L-38 disc
22 mower
grader blade - power swivel
42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
and power steering
Location: Boston, NY

Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:46 am

oh yeh . . ..
the number on the tc block is 354383R3
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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Mike in Louisiana » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:56 pm

Yes that item comes out. I watched a rebuild at La cub fest there is a special tool for that but they did not have one. I did not see it taken out so I don't know what they used.
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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:45 pm

You can get a 15/16" drag link socket from Sears, etc. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... ink+socket It will need to be thinned a little to fit the slot. You can take a piece of flat stock about 1" x 4" x 1/8" and grind it to fit the slot. While pushing in on it with a balled up rag, turn it with a crescent wrench. The drag link socket is easier but more expensive. There is also a "how to" that shows how to grind down a socket to be used in the same manner.

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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby redfin » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:48 pm

Jason that is a screw in seat. The one we did at the La Fest the push in seat. You will need a screw drivwer type affair to remove it. Russ Leggett had one that works and there are a couple pictures somewhere on the forum of one someone else fashioned from a socket . lookls like a spanner driver. Maybe the forum member formerly known as "RJMAC" can add to this. :D



edited: I am to slow once again. :D

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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:51 pm

Here's the one I mentioned above: viewtopic.php?t=21657

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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Clem » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:42 pm

It is not necessary to remove it and still have a very good rebuild. I'd pass on going in that far. I have on only one of my five successful procedures.

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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby redfin » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:51 pm

Clem wrote:It is not necessary to remove it and still have a very good rebuild. I'd pass on going in that far. I have on only one of my five successful procedures.


True , if you can ensure the spring and ball are moving freely and there is no crud trapped inside. :D My opinion is , I personally will remove the seat since I am going that far. :D Good luck

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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:14 pm

I appreciate the info guys
I'm contemplating making a "screwdriver tool" to take it out
is it a regular right hand thread :?: :?:
the ball seems to move freely however with the amount of crud
found in the rest of the block I wonder what's behind the plug . .. :?:
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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Rudi » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:32 pm

When I was visiting Dale in Debert about a month or so ago, we were talking about the Hydraulic Rebuilds and the stuff needed to do it. He had just finished rebuilding Gord's Touch Control Reservoir that was Cub Expressed from Dan's down in Arkansas to CubFest Northeast NB 2009.. :{_}: and there were a couple tools he mentioned to me that would be useful. One of them was a Snap-On A17 Drag Link socket

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SNAP ON 1/2" DRAG LINK, A17, TOOL,

Took me a couple shots, but I managed to acquire one for my own toolbox. :D
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42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
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Location: Boston, NY

Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby howhow1 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:22 pm

Guys
I'm really inspired by the tool pictured made from the socket :{_}: :{_}:
(I like to make tools :wave: )
so much so I'm gonna locate a socket & go to town on the surface grinder
fit one up to the block/ insert & give it a healthy grunt .. :!: and ope for the best
I'll post what I end up with for a tool and my results
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194 plows
23 - A disc
L-38 disc
22 mower
grader blade - power swivel
42 Farmall H - wide front end 3 pt hitch
and power steering
Location: Boston, NY

Re: TC Block Help needed - UPDATE

Postby howhow1 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm

I found an old socket, went to work on the surface grinder
ended up with the pictured tool slipped it in, a quick twist
and the plug broke loose :{_}: :{_}:
with a little bit of coaxing - gentle prying with a small screwdriver while rotating
it worked it's way out

by the way there is an o-ring on the screw in plug
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the tool and parts under the insert
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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Rudi » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:47 pm

Nicely done :!: :D
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Re: TC Block Help needed

Postby Mr E » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:54 pm

Nice job, Jason! Slip it in your pocket when you guys come down next February. :wink:
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