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Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:37 am

I was going through the list of what to do when you bring home a cub because I figured what would be good for a cub, would be good for my Super C. I realized that I'm going to need some books to show me what steps to accomplish some things. There are some terms that are foreign to me. Such as the FINALS. I don't know what or where they are. I can still do a few things like flush the block. That should be easy enough. Ok, now to my question.

What are the best books and where is the best place to get them. I saw a repair manual that had 382 pages for around 90 bucks. Would this be a good choice? I would like both an operators and a repair manual. I need something that is spelled out in step by step with pictures if possible.
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Buzzard Wing » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:47 am

Looks like you can get them online from CaseIH. But they only show the parts (PC) and op manual (OM) no service manual, possibly someone makes a good repro? I like to have all 3 but these 2 are the most useful.

http://www1.caseih.com/northamerica/Par ... tions.aspx

TC-44B Farmall Super C PC ENG $67.29
1004315R1 Farmall Super C Tractor OM ENG $30.54
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:20 am

Check with your local dealer, or go on line to http://binderbooks.com/ They have authorized reprints of the original manuals. Owners manuals, parts manual, service manual, etc., as well as some specialized ones that go into great detail. It has been a while since I ordered form them, but the last time I did, the manuals were in the order of $25 or so a piece.

Also, many of the manuals can be downloaded to your computer from the site http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/index.html

On a cub, a final is the housing that bolts to the sides of the differential and contains a small gear and a larger (bull) gear. These provide the final gear reduction. a Farmall C does not use them, it's gear reduction is all in the transmission.
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Postby Eugene » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:44 pm

For general reference material. Suggest the public library. The local library has a number of tractor books for check out and considerably more in the reference section.

Also, there should be a number of books on general mechanical issues/theory. If you are not familiar with mechanics or simple electrical issues - suggest a text book aimed at the high school auto shop student.

Also some of the small engine books have excellent chapters covering basic theory.
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Rudi » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:06 pm

HMK:

So far you have gotten great info. The only thing I can or will add is that make sure you get genuine IH manuals. Either on :eBay: as in originals.. and you would need the Owner's, Parts and Service manuals for the Super C and the H. Do not bother with those I&T manuals. Whilst they have some good info in them, they are not as complete as the IH manuals.

At Binder Books..

Binder Books wrote:

    Farmall Super C Built from 1951-1954 - Serial numbers 10001-198310 with the C-123 engine. List Price 1004315 Operators manual, 98 pages $21.95

    TC-44B Parts Catalog. 234 pages $34.95
    GSS-5031 Service manual, chassis $21.95
    GSS-1295J Engine service manual $24.95
    GSS-1024 Touch Control service $16.95
    GSS-5053 Clutch service $21.95
    CHS-12 Clutch Adjustment, 8 pages $ 8.95
    GSS-5035 Magneto service $21.95
    FCI-1A Parts Catalog, for Implements for use the Farmall C & Super C Tractors, 930 pages $83.95


Binder Books wrote:

    Farmall H Built from 1939-1953 - Serial numbers 501-391730 with the C-152 engine. List Price 1004203 Operators manual, 98 pages $21.95

    1005546 Hydraulic Lift All, Operators manual, 16 pages $11.95
    TC-27E Parts Catalog, 315 pages $39.95
    GSS-5032 Service manual, engine and chassis $21.95
    GSS-5053 Clutch service $21.95
    CHS-12 Clutch Adjustment, 8 pages $ 8.95
    GSS-5034 Hydraulic Lift All, Service manual $14.95
    GSS-5035 Magneto service $21.95
    CHS-13 Serviceman's Guide to the Farmall H, 24 pages $14.95


Although I have nothing much on the Super C at the moment on the server, there is some stuff for your H.. in the H-HV section, mostly consisting of the TC-27D Parts Catalog. More is coming but the rest of the Letter Series is lower in priority for me than the Cubs which is the focus of the server.

Hope this helps a bit. Oh, yeah, and as Eugene said, reading some basic stuff is useful.. and in the Blue Ribbon Service Manual section there are a number of service manuals that would apply such as the Magnetos and the Electrical Manuals as John pointed out also.

Hope this helps a bit.
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:23 am

Thanks Everyone! You guys are the absolute best!
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Harold R » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:25 pm

One of the prize things I got with my fence row Super C was the original owners manual. It was in near mint condition. If Rudi would like.....I could send scans so he could put the manual on his server.

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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:30 pm

That would be great!
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Rudi » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:30 am

Harold:

That would be nice :!: There have been a number of requests over the last while, which unfortunately I could not accomodate. I will scan it as quickly as I can and return it.
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Harold R » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:46 pm

Could I scan it and e-mail you pdfs?

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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Rudi » Sun May 03, 2009 2:39 pm

Harold:

Yes please do... The pdf will be nice, but can you scan it and save the individual pages as jpegs as well? Dialuppers have difficulty with pdf's, and the jpegs are a good standard. The pdf will go up on the new formated server when ready.

Let me know ok?

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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Harold R » Mon May 04, 2009 6:59 am

The pdf will be nice, but can you scan it and save the individual pages as jpegs as well?


Wouldn't that require double scanning each page? I put a couple hours in on it yesterday and only got about a third of the way through.......just saving each page as a pdf.........this will take a while. I'll do the best I can. How should I send these to you Rudi? Page at a time....one as jpeg....then the same page as pdf? Or en masse?

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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Mon May 04, 2009 9:58 am

Harold,

This is super nice of you. I appreciate your hard work. I used to do that for a living when I worked for the aircraft industry. I would have to run to the vault, grab my document, scan it, save it and toss it on the company server. Anyone who hasn't done it may not be able to appreciate the work involved, but I sure do. I was working with a high speed scanner too, so I can really understand working with a regular scanner. Thanks again.
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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Harold R » Mon May 04, 2009 5:47 pm

This is super nice of you. I appreciate your hard work. I used to do that for a living when I worked for the aircraft industry. I would have to run to the vault, grab my document, scan it, save it and toss it on the company server. Anyone who hasn't done it may not be able to appreciate the work involved, but I sure do. I was working with a high speed scanner too, so I can really understand working with a regular scanner. Thanks again.


Oh...I'm glad to do it. I owe this forum so much, I try to give something back when I can. I don't have much experience converting file extensions, or scanning documents........so any tidbit you have will help.

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Re: Best Manuals

Postby Hairy Moose Knuckles » Tue May 05, 2009 12:31 am

Well it depends if you have the complete adobe software. I used to scan them in as tiff's and convert to PDF. I'm not sure what software you are using. There is some freeware software called ImageMagick, but I've never used it. When I did it on the job, I scanned straight into adobe when it was possible and if my drawing would not fit into the small scanner, we scanned it as a tiff and converted. I know that doesn't help you much. I would assume you are using your scanner software, right? If so, I would scan as JPEG and then convert it to PDF with something like image magick.
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