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Mach-z
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Postby Mach-z » Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:06 am

" Hello to everyone" my name is Jim Rumph and this is my first posting on this site. "Ya" i know that last name is a real pain in the rump .

But anyway i have a 55 cub and a 52 Super M , both are almost total restores . My idea of restoration is total take apart and strip and rebuild all parts not a paint job and stickers. I'm on Red Power quit often and have never gotten a good answer to this question.

We all know the cub tranmissions are poor . I had mine rebuilt by the local I.H dealer with all new factory seals detents , springs etc etc .
I also supplied a spare trans for parts if needed.

My trans made the usal first /reverse noise . They told me that you never mix new and used gears that they would use parts from the other trans.

Well it started out "not bad" a hole lot less noise , but were back to a loud trans that is hard to get into 3rd.

What do i do now , i have $600.00 to $700.00 into this trans issue already with the spare and it's still bad . The dealer says " that's the way they are" bull --it to that.

" Help" New member.

Jim

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Postby beaconlight » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:42 pm

Welcome Jim. Cub transmissions are noisy but as far as not going into gear they are giving you a story,
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Postby cowboy » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:16 pm

:D Hi Jim

Welcome to the cub form :!: Some tran are quiet and some noisy. Others here can give you a better idea why its hard to go into the 3rd gear. The farthest I have gotten into mine was to chage a shifting fork and a front trans seal.

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Re: New Member

Postby Rudi » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:10 pm

First, Image to the greatest forum on the internet, and to the Cub Family. You will find that all the folks on this forum are kind, helpful and just full of Cub info and knowledge. They also happen to be the finest folks I have ever met :!: :D

Mach-z wrote:" Hello to everyone" my name is Jim Rumph and this is my first posting on this site. "Ya" i know that last name is a real pain in the rump .

But anyway i have a 55 cub and a 52 Super M , both are almost total restores . My idea of restoration is total take apart and strip and rebuild all parts not a paint job and stickers. I'm on Red Power quit often and have never gotten a good answer to this question.

We all know the cub tranmissions are poor . I had mine rebuilt by the local I.H dealer with all new factory seals detents , springs etc etc .
I also supplied a spare trans for parts if needed.

My trans made the usal first /reverse noise . They told me that you never mix new and used gears that they would use parts from the other trans.

Well it started out "not bad" a hole lot less noise , but were back to a loud trans that is hard to get into 3rd.

What do i do now , i have $600.00 to $700.00 into this trans issue already with the spare and it's still bad . The dealer says " that's the way they are" bull --it to that.

" Help" New member.
Jim


My 3rd grade teacher's name was Mrs. Rumph.. and she was a sweetie.. and yeah.. we gave her tons of grief over the tushie remarks. That was what almost 45 years ago or so.. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, it seems the old "ifn you can't answer a customers question intelligently, give him the gears story" is at it again... but a couple of falacies that need to be corrected.
    1. Cub Tranny's are not poor. They are extremely good and long lasting. I have yet to see anyother tranny last over 50 years.. so that pretty well solves that problem.
    2. Cub Tranny's can be noisy yes.. or so they tell me, that is a function of two elements from what I have learned.
    Element A has to do with the square cut gears
    Element B has to do with the use of either SAE90wt or equivalent or moving to Hy-tran or MSO1209 Compliant. Hy-Tran is thinner and makes the tranny noisier. I use SAE90wt, and I have no whinning, clicking, grinding etc... in fact Ellie's tranny is pretty darn quiet it seems.
    3. If you check the Tranny 101 for a Dummy! and Tranny Repair 101 threads, you will see how I was able to go from knowing absolutley zilch about getting into a tranny, and getting it fixed.
It really is not that difficult if you utilize the resources in our community here. I have a feeling, that if you print out the appropriate pages from the TC-37F, the GSS-1411, and the notes from these threads or the other threads you can search for on Noisy Tranny, or 3rd Gear etc., you will be able to solve this yourself and not have to spend any more money on that transmission.

Ok, so here is the spiel Image:

I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub. One of the other projects we have been working on and it will be a continuing effort is the How To Article Archive. This the the place to go to get all the quick links to some very good articles written by many members of the forum on solving some of the problems we encounter as we repair, maintain and up-grade our Cubs. Keep looking for this to grow.


Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These pages are intended to complement our Official FarmallCub.com Website Sponsors:

I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better is you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.

IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's :?: . While you are at it Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet is Ken's latest addition to the series. Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are three must have's in anyone's collection.

In addition to the above information, don't forget to check out the various articles that are available to help with your Repair, Restore, Rebuild or just your Maintenance Projects. There are a number of sub pages such as Electrolysis or Rust Zapper's, Maintenance Tips, Jigs and Techniques, Implement and Part Sketches and of course the Paint, Decals & Other Finish Questions which has the Paint Chart and the Paint Committee Decisions links.

Oh, and while the program still lasts.. you might want to check the Announcement: Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer - On-Line Form thread at the top of the Cub Forum and send away for the new style safety cap before that program runs out as well.

I truly hope that you enjoy your Cub and that you will be a frequent contributor to the forum. Again, Image to the Cub FamilyImage :D
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