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Massey Harris Pony ?

Postby Arizona Mike » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:23 pm

Have found a nice original Massey Harris Pony a few mile from here. Also its the first tractor shown in RFDTV's Classic Tractor Calendar this week. Looks like a neat little machine.

I like this tractor, BUT..Compared to the Farmall Cub:

How is parts availablity?

How many were made?

What are they worth :roll:

Anyone had experience with these?

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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:28 pm

Never owned one myself, but have thought about it a few times.
Price is a bit higher than Cubs, sinsce most people are selling them as collectors tractors.
Parts and attachments are considerably harder to find, since they never became nearly as popular as a Cub.
People I know who have owned them really liked them.
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Re: Massey Harris Pony ?

Postby George Willer » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:51 pm

mltiema wrote:I like this tractor, BUT..Compared to the Farmall Cub:

Anyone had experience with these?

Thanks


Mike,

I thought we resolved this issue at CubFest 2004! Maybe we did this before you arrived?

There's old Scruffy pulling his heart out! The Pony does have a couple more horsepower, and maybe a little more weight.

Actually, both tractors dug holes and it was a draw.

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Postby Arizona Mike » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:18 pm

George I member now, but fergot before you reminded me...Man.. that seems like it was a long time ago. I had a great time :lol: :lol:

He wants $800. The motor is stuck.

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Postby johnbron » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:27 pm

There was about a 2 month running ad in the local paper here for a 1948? good running MH-Pony with many attachments for $1795 if that is any indication of what they are selling for. I never did go look at it for fear that I would probably bring it home with me. Who knows, I might have missed out on a great deal.
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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:16 pm

john, a good running pony with all the sheet metal in good shape would have been a buy at 1750 without the implements.
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Postby johnbron » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:44 pm

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:john, a good running pony with all the sheet metal in good shape would have been a buy at 1750 without the implements.


:o is me then. Oh well, I still haven`t finished My Cub yet. Gotta wait for good weather and that will be a month or 3. I have another Cub and a 1944 J.D.-LA being delivered this spring when the snow leaves the mountains so I will have more work than I can handle. :P
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Postby Maritimer » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:49 pm

I had o 1947 Pony. I redid the whole thing It looked some sweet. I had a mower, Plow, cultivators to go with it. It did run nice. but..... it was a massey and I'm kinda partial to the farmalls and deere's. The seial # was 100091, making it the90th pony ever made. They started with 100001. I sold it to my neighbor whose father had oneon the farm when they first came out. I had all manuals with it too. Sold it for 2500.00.
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Postby Arizona Mike » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:52 pm

Stuck motor and all I would like to see it over here instead of sitting along the highway. Have been reading the adventures of KenHigginbotham. Probably could get this one running if I could call someone like JP or Tom for a part needed. Anyone know more about parts availability for the Pony :?:

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Postby Rudi » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:10 pm

Mike:

Surprisingly there are a few lads on this forum who are Pony owners and a few of us who have chums who have Pony's. They were very popular here and David usually has access to Pony, Pacer and Mustang parts on a regular basis which would make the parts reasonable.

My buddy Roger who is my electrician and my lobster fishing chum own's a Pony. I have been helping find parts for him on the net through our forum and the Massey Harris forum.

So far we have gotten him the sickle mower, a single plow and a belt pulley for the mower for him -- most of it still sitting beside my IH implements.

As I said the Pony was very popular here for some reason, and they are quite collectible but kinda common. Nice tractor, but I still favour my Cub - much prettier I find and easier to like than the Pony. I guess it is all about lines and asthetics which really is a personal preference.

They are a good tractor and very restorable.

You might want to rescue that Pony after all. Besides, be nice to have another tractor that is in the same class as a Cub, but not really ifn you know what I mean :D :D :D
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Postby Paul B » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:53 pm

The "HOT LINE ANTIQUE TRACTOR GUIDE" says there were 21,669 Pony's built. It had a Continental 4 cylinder engine with 62 cu in, 2.375 X 3.50 bore & stroke, 8.31 drawbar hp, 10.34 belt PTO hp, weight of 1,520 lbs.

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Postby Ike » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:37 am

Rudi wrote:
As I said the Pony was very popular here for some reason, and they are quite collectible but kinda common.


The Pony was a Canadian (Woodstock, Ontario) built tractor which probably accounts for the availablity of implements and used parts there. It used the same engine as an Allis Chalmers G.

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Postby George Willer » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:53 am

Ike wrote:
Rudi wrote:
As I said the Pony was very popular here for some reason, and they are quite collectible but kinda common.


The Pony was a Canadian (Woodstock, Ontario) built tractor which probably accounts for the availablity of implements and used parts there. It used the same engine as an Allis Chalmers G.

Ike


Yup! Canadian built.

Lest someone gets the wrong idea, the engine is the same size Continental as an Allis G but they do not interchange.
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Postby Rudi » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:13 am

Yup,

The Pony along with ALL the other Massey Harris tractors were designed and built in Canada. Massey turned into Massey-Harris Ferguson in the late 50's and then into Massey-Ferguson a couple years later.

This company also shared the same type of heritage as IH. Small company, buys other small companies and becomes big company over time.

Cockshutt is another very popular make around here - again a Canadian company.

There are some Oliver's but not many.

A chum of mine up the road has a Cub, a Pony (actually 2), a Pacer, 2 Allis G's, and a bunch I cannot remember at the moment. I think he just likes tractors. The last one he rebuilt was a JD2... Dozer. Nice!
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Postby Ike » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:48 pm

Rudi wrote:Yup,

The Pony along with ALL the other Massey Harris tractors were designed and built in Canada. Massey turned into Massey-Harris Ferguson in the late 50's and then into Massey-Ferguson a couple years later.

This company also shared the same type of heritage as IH. Small company, buys other small companies and becomes big company over time.

Cockshutt is another very popular make around here - again a Canadian company.

There are some Oliver's but not many.

A chum of mine up the road has a Cub, a Pony (actually 2), a Pacer, 2 Allis G's, and a bunch I cannot remember at the moment. I think he just likes tractors. The last one he rebuilt was a JD2... Dozer. Nice!


Massey Harris also had a plant in Racine, Wisconsin that they obtained when they bought out Wallis. :D

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