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Prehistoric ??? I'm Curious About These !

Postby magnumpi » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:07 am

Every so often, I run across an ad for these tractors, and it's "look" arouses my curiosity. I'd think it's appearance is so unusual that it would have been a hard sell - especially in 1949 !! I know the gurus on this site can enlighten me about this unique piece of tractor history. TIA, Craig

Allis_Chalmers Model G Farm Tractor
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Located In: Lexington N.C. USA
Reply To: Frank 336-956-1729
For Sale: 1949 Model G running and approx. 90 % restored. Has hydraulic lift -(needs new seals). Also Mott hammer-knife or flail mower for a Model G. Mower can also be restored. Have mounting brackets and drive pulleys. Includes original owners manual for tractor and parts list for mower. Best offer over $ 2,500 cash only. Will not sell separately. Buyer must pickup.

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I know another tractor manufacturer employed Raymond Loewy to spice up their design after his splash with Studebaker, but did some like Loewy or Howard Hughes or ?? have an influence on this unusual design ??

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Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:34 am

I don't know anything about who influenced their design, etc., but those are very popular little tractors both for use and collectors. The most common item to see on them is a cultivator. I have wanted one for several years, but have given up on that idea. The listed price is about right.
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Postby Eugene » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:38 am

Some place in my reference material - I believe IH and Allis had a legal contest over the design of the tractor. Guy Fay says that the Allis G closely resembles the IH Motor Cultivator. IH Motor Cultivator (1916 - 1918).

Hard sell. Not really the G was popular with truck/garden farmers. Actually, there are tractors currently or in the recent past manufactured along the same features.

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Postby George Willer » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:49 am

For more serious work an Allis G may need a power upgrade. No, Rick Prentice didn't do this. 8)

Note the rear mounted radiator.

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Postby Jim Becker » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:06 am

A good nursery or vegetable tractor. From what I have seen, prices tend to run about the same or a little above Cub prices. It is harder to get parts for the Continental engine than for a Cub engine. The YT page on them seems to be fairly accurate:
http://www.ytmag.com/profiles/acgprof.htm

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Postby pete1941 » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:54 pm

Magnumpi, the G-Allis Chalmers was just about as popular as the Cub in our part of the country and there are still a lot around today. Just like Cubs, some restored, some not. It, like the Cub, was meant to be a planting and cultivating tractor and was good at both. Like the Cub, while cultivating you had good vision of what the plows were doing. The operator sat a little lower to the ground on the G than they did on the Cub. I've heard it said by my older relatives that when cultivating with a G you could actually reach down to the ground and uncover something that the plows had covered up. They were great little tractors, but still weren't a Cub!

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Postby junkman1946 » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:02 pm

Their must still be quite a few around. Somebody in Antique Power Mag is hawking a diesel conversion for the G.
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Postby Highlanderjim » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:39 pm

That thing's cool. I've seen a few similar at tractor shows. Does anyone know if a grader is available for it?

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Postby Bigdog » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:04 pm

There was a full range of implements available for them including a grader blade, cultivators, mowers, front end loader etc.
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Postby John(videodoc) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:08 pm

Bigdog wrote:There was a full range of implements available for them including a grader blade, cultivators, mowers, front end loader etc.

and even (2) that is two, had factory installed side dump boxes.
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for use in the factory. I know where one is 8) However the other escaped the factory as well to unknown hands, and in unknown condition.....

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Postby WKPoor » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:48 pm

Those tractors are very popular with the new organic farms that are sprouting up all over. I think they have an edge over the Cub for precision cutivating work. Seen a program on TV where a midwest farm was buying up a bunch and having them fixed up to use everyday on the farm. Great little tractor that has held its value better than the Cub overall.

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Postby Kodiak » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:57 pm

There are even mini's
This one belongs to and was made by a friend of Mr. GW's that lives down near me.
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Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:59 am

I can't wait to tell Herb his picture showed up on a red tractor page!

George, I had forgotten about the Super G! Was it Findlay that it popped up? Pretty wild, the builder did a neat job!

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Postby George Willer » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:41 am

Gary Dotson wrote:I can't wait to tell Herb his picture showed up on a red tractor page!

George, I had forgotten about the Super G! Was it Findlay that it popped up? Pretty wild, the builder did a neat job!


Gary,

I saw it at SCRAP. The builder has a number of modified Allis-Chalmers, including a mini IB that would knock Larry's eyes out.

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Postby Bigdog » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:07 am

I thought I'd move this post into this forum since it is providing interesting information that should not roll off the page after 21 days.
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