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IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
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IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Is there any possibility that these two manifolds might interchange? I have a good manifold from a 154 and would like to try to use it on the Hercules engine rather than try to repair a hole in the Hercules manifold. Any thoughts or experiences? Any comments on repairing the cast manifold? Thanks. Stan
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Any chance the Hercules manifold could be brazed to close the hole? Not sure if it's on the intake or exhaust portion....
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
I would think any chance of fittment would be very slim but give it a look, you’ve got nothing to lose.
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
The hole is about the size of a dime and on the exhaust side. Seems like brazing would be the best option but unfortunately that seems to be a lost skill in my part of the country. Thanks for the comments. I've looked at a JB Weld High Temperature epoxy paste (not a 2 part mix) that along with a patch might hold up for occasional use. Anyone have any experience with this product? Stan
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
J-B Weld HighHeat is a two-part epoxy system that provides strong, lasting, heat-resistant repairs up to 550°F. Won't hold up on exhaust side of a manifold.
Take the manifold to a welding shop.
Take the manifold to a welding shop.
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Why don't you ask Buddy if there will be someone at the LA Cubfest that could braze it.
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Bob McCarty wrote:Why don't you ask Buddy if there will be someone at the LA Cubfest that could braze it.
Good Idea, thanks.
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Well I took a closer look at the fitment and the studs spacing is not close enough to work. BTW here's a look at the gremlin, just to the rear and below the exhaust flange connection. A nickel coin would cover it.
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
Is the manifold thick enough that you could drill a round hole, tap it and screw in a plug?
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
I don't think so Bob. Still considering alternatives. Talked to an automotive machine shop today, they did not offer any suggestions. I plan to bring it to the Lucedale show in a couple weeks and get some feedback from the people that I know who will be there. Probably also bring it to LACubfest for some recommendations. Stan
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Re: IH C60 and Hercules ZXB3 manifold interchange
I just clean them down to bare metal and braze patches over them. Gets kinda involved cause you have to preheat the whole casting quite a bit before you braze then remove heat slowly and you will be fine. A big 500,000 lp weed burner torch will give enough heat so no need for an oven or forge. --- Even a thin casting can be fixed this way making them last til another burn thru down the line.
I think some of these burn thru's are from sand trapped in the metal when they were cast back in the day causing a weak spot years down the road.
I think some of these burn thru's are from sand trapped in the metal when they were cast back in the day causing a weak spot years down the road.
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