1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

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1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Urbish » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:38 am

I acquired my late father's 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M stationary engine over the weekend. I need to clean the fuel system as he left gas in it for many years. Everything looks to be in pretty good shape. Nice bright spark and decent compression. I hope to rig it up to run my period-correct cider press this fall once I get it running reliably.
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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Rick Prentice » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:14 am

Very nice. I used to have one of those. Check out this link for parts http://www.hitnmiss.com/
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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Urbish » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:02 am

Rick Prentice wrote:Very nice. I used to have one of those. Check out this link for parts http://www.hitnmiss.com/


Thanks Rick. I found that page myself just this morning. Good to know you can find parts for these pretty easily.

I was inspired by this guy who has the same cider press as me:

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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Super A » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:30 am

Very cool! If I ever get every other toy I want lined up, I want to find myself an engine like that.......

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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby John P » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:47 pm

Is the mag hot/working?
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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Urbish » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:09 pm

John P wrote:Is the mag hot/working?


Yes, getting a nice spark. I added some fresh fuel but I can smell skunky fuel as I turn it over. I'll drain the fuel and clean the carburetor.
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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby cub&catman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:02 pm

the fuel pump besides the mag is usually the problem. I have restored 2 of these. one with a car type fuel pump and one with the I-h pump. both had different types of mags too.

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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Urbish » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:02 am

I had some excitement with this engine the other night and thought I should share.

I ended up exchanging the mag for a newly rebuilt one. I have very hot spark now! I pulled apart the fuel mixer and confirmed that all passages are clear (it is VERY simple inside). I also verified that fuel is pumping and the bowl on the mixer is remaining full. Then I cranked and cranked and cranked. Not even the slightest puff.

I pulled the side cover off of my rototiller and rigged an extra woods mower deck belt that I had laying around between it and the stationary engine to use it as a pony motor. Then I could fiddle with things without cranking my arm off. With the whole works spinning good, I would get a little pop once in a while, but still not what I was expecting.

I got the needle valve adjusted to the point where it would pop the most, but it still wouldn't stay running on its own. With it still spinning over via the pony motor, I then bumped the governor arm and it took off running at a steady but rather high rpm. I know these are supposed to run at about 500 rpm.

I then pushed the governor arm to close the throttle and it suddenly kicked up to fairly high rpm and into a runaway condition! The engine and the heavy steel shop cart to which it was clamped were hopping about an inch off the floor. I know better than to pull the plug wire to prevent burning up my new mag, so I quickly held both valves open with my palm to kill compression while it spun down. It was at this point that the Cub engine block that was on the bottom shelf of the cart hopped off the shelf and onto the floor. Luckily it didn't land on my foot.

It turns out that my dad replaced the throttle lever arm at some point and got it clocked wrong so that the throttle was closed at rest and would open when the governor weights were thrown outboard (opposite what it should be). The throttle arm also does not contact the stop pin that limits its travel in both directions. So I'll pull the mixer, get the correct throttle lever arm, and get everything clocked correctly. Then I should be in business. I don't think it ran fast enough for long enough to do any damage to the bearings. Everything was freshly lubricated, so at least I have that going for me.
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Re: 1-1/2 HP McCormick-Deering Model M - Stationary Engine

Postby Urbish » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:53 pm

I got things sorted out and it runs really good!

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