Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

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Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:06 am

We now have our small sticks and beams to restore the 160+ Year Old Dutch Barn at our farm. With our son being a traditional timber framer - this will be a fun project. BTW - the one beam is 33' 8x10 Hemlock
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Fresh From the Saw Mill
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Dad Inspects
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Timbers on the Custom Built Sawhorses
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Timbers Stacked
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Postby Jack » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:41 pm

you guys got your work cut out for you. tell dad to shoot you guys some refreshments instead of the bird :D while your working lol
post more pics of the project
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:16 pm

Here are four views of the Barn - Before Restoration work began today. This barn was moved to the present site about 165 years ago. We did the East side over about 8 years ago with new sills and siding.

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West Side
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South Side
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North Side Sill - the sun was not favorable to take a full photo
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South and East Side - In the background is a full size replica of the German Barn that first built on that very spot in 1799.
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:25 pm

There are parts if this barn that have to be raised more than 9 inches. Today we got the North sill level and we've been jacking at 8-10 different points on the perimeter and under the barn. The West and South sills will be totally replaced. All the siding will be replaced on 3 sides.

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This sill will be repaired with the balance of it being new wood.
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Not a pretty site.....Wait till you see the after pictures. A new sill will be under all of this.
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Dad looks on...He enjoys watching us the self-leveling laser level seen in the photo behind him.
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Making room to start the jacking process - the new sill will be slide in here.
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South side excavation for access to solid jacking surfaces.
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Tucker, Tim and Dad - at the end of a good day. Barn is coming up slowly - she talks to you as she's being leveled - Tim - knows when she needs a rest to slowly stretch back into shape.
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby RaymondDurban » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:00 pm

Wow! You are not afraid to jump into a project with both feet are you! Love old barns, looking forward to the finished photos!
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:47 am

Wanted to share this Then and Now Photo.

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Dutch Barn - Then and Now
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby Steve K. CALIF » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:04 am

Too much fun. Call Norm and the guys at this old house and get on the air!! Steve
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby Buzzard Wing » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:44 pm

Just curious what makes it a 'Dutch' barn.
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:50 pm

Buzzard Wing wrote:Just curious what makes it a 'Dutch' barn.


The structure style was brought to the US by the Dutch. It's nearly square, with 2 "H" Bents (main timber frame supports that look like H's) that pretty much the whole rest of the barn is supported by. There would typically be a drive through center, hay mow on oneside or in a loft, with two animal bays in the two south facing corners. In the two south facing corners would be two animal doors. Dad and my son Tim could give a much more graphic and detailed description.

Our other two barns are English and German - when you get over here someday - it's pretty interesting to see the structural differences.

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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby Bigschuss » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:24 am

PVF1799 wrote:
Buzzard Wing wrote:Just curious what makes it a 'Dutch' barn.


The structure style was brought to the US by the Dutch. It's nearly square, with 2 "H" Bents (main timber frame supports that look like H's) that pretty much the whole rest of the barn is supported by. There would typically be a drive through center, hay mow on oneside or in a loft, with two animal bays in the two south facing corners. In the two south facing corners would be two animal doors. Dad and my son Tim could give a much more graphic and detailed description.

Our other two barns are English and German - when you get over here someday - it's pretty interesting to see the structural differences.

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That's a great project Ken! Love the craft myself. I built a 24x16 timber frame 2 years ago. I'm a high school teacher and I thought that offering a Timber Framing 101 course at my school would be a neat class. I wrote up a grant last year and received $6K to get the class off the ground. I am going to offer it for the first time as a half year elective starting in January.

That's a HUGE piece of hemlock! Is is hand-hewn? They refer to hemlock in the timber framing world as "hem-rock" for the tendency of the knots to chip chisels.

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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:57 am

Blair, the timbers are not hand hewn for the replacement wood. They are cut on a band mill. This restoration is really be lead by my son Tim - under his business Pleasant View Restorations. He goes all over the country repairing and moving barns of all shapes and sizes. He just finished a 5 week project in Martha's Vineyard where the wedding for one of the hosts for Saturday Night Live had his wedding this past weekend.

I'll keep posting pictures as we go along. That's a nice barn you put up there....If you PM your email address - I can share photos of the German Barn we built at the farm in 2007-08.

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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:16 pm

Had a chance today to get the building up a few more inches, in certain places. There are still places that have to be raised more than 9 inches. We placed the 32 foot long 8x10 hemlock beam in position today. This sill has been gone pretty much my whole life in spots - now only 10' of the original 42' is salvageable.

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Tim, cuts the door post off - to make way for the new beam. You can see the jack support behind him.
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West wall hanging and free
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Main West Sill on the Move
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Almost there - It doesn't just drop in place as you'd wish - It is carefully blocked and pushed in diagonally, then the end is carefully moved under the corner post.
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And Just Like that - there she sits. Too bad it has to be removed to to complete the joinery. The barn is still too out of position to cut it to length. We places this here for a SOLID jacking surface.
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We had a little stone in the way - which would have been the original corner stone. Over the years the frost slowly moved it almost 24 inches from where it belongs. It will go back into place and once again hold the corner of this barn. Today it was in the way - so time moved it the easy way.


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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby Joe Malinowski » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:15 am

Nothing better than seeing a barn being saved. Too many have been lost. Nice job<I really enjoy the pictures.
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby PVF1799 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:27 pm

The winter weather abated a little today. It was great to make some progress on the Dutch Barn. We've been slowly jacking and raising the old timbers up to the correct level. The NE and SW corners and sill are where they belong. We've got a few spots under main timbers that still need to come-up between 4-6 inches. Today it was pull the original flooring which is pinned down with square wooden pegs every 4th row, with 5" square nails at the ends. The planks are all splined together.

Here's a few shots of the destruction, so we can start internal repairs.
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South Door - Before Floor Removal
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You can see in this photo that at some point this main floor support timber snapped.
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South Door - After Floor Removal
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Flooring up in South and Main Aisles
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Large Floor Joists all Removed - Now We Start over!
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Re: Dutch Barn Restoration Project at Pleasant View Farm

Postby Cecil » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:51 pm

Good to see you posting again. Must be all caught up with the honey dew list. We'll be home in a couple of weeks and I'll give you a call.
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