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Wider Load

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:19 am
by Barnyard
I go to a few 4x4 swap meets every year and have wanted to make it easier to load or unload Jeep rear ends on or off my trailer while it has a rolling chassis on also. Most of the time the heavy stuff has to be tucked under the chassis. My buddy has been a welder for over 50 year in his family welding business. He has made several trailers over the years, so I stopped in for a visit. At first I just wanted some sort of temporary extension that could drop in the side pockets. He talked me out of that because he said a temporary set up would be heavy and I would end up just leaving it on. He said a permanent solution would be as strong, if not stronger, and cheaper in the long run.

I told him to go for it, so he added about nine inches on each side in front of the fender keeping the overall width to less than 102”. This will make loading or unloading easier, but will also give me a place to set tool boxes too if need be. It is even plenty strong to allow a Cub to be driven or pulled over the side.

Here it is in its original form.
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The welder cut the rub rail and pockets off as a group, fabbed an extension and welded the rub rail/pocket assembly back on. I asked about gussets and he just smiled. :lol:
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Once I topped it with a new board it was even with the rest of the deck. I have a few boards to replace so I will replace the new boards with oak planks when I redo the rest of it.
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Re: Wider Load

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:48 am
by Steve K. CALIF
Wow, that looks great! I will be replacing some of or maybe all of my deck boards in the near future. My question to you is what kind of preservative would be used on the wood?? Don't want to spend too much on it, just know it needs something as the original boards have begun to rot after 10 years. Won't be able to use Oak either.
Thanks in advance for any input. Steve K.

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:12 pm
by BJ Moretz
Nice redo Barnyard. Might do that to mine too.

Steve K
A good brand of water sealant like Thompson's should do the trick ? That is what used. Even untreated mine usually last 20 years out in the weather.

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:24 pm
by Donegal Cub
Ahh now I see why you bought that big beautiful machine :{_}:
Donegal Cub :D

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:01 am
by Peter Person
Steve K. CALIF wrote:Wow, that looks great! I will be replacing some of or maybe all of my deck boards in the near future. My question to you is what kind of preservative would be used on the wood?? Don't want to spend too much on it, just know it needs something as the original boards have begun to rot after 10 years. Won't be able to use Oak either.
Thanks in advance for any input. Steve K.


Steve, I used a product called Penofin to do my trailer deck. I since found out they have a formulation for pressure treated wood.
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=71210

Peter

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:29 am
by Steve K. CALIF
Thanks for the info on the Penofin! Your trailer looks pretty darn nice, too. I'll try adding the jacks to the rear of my trailer, too. Great idea, thanks again. Steve K.

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:37 am
by Bob Perry
Great work Bill !!! Give a smart guy like you a welder and the sky's the limit !

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:28 pm
by Rudi
Bill:

I like what you had in mind, extensions are always good :idea: What your buddy accomplished makes a lot of sense and the execution is really cool. I like his gusset idea - that is the key ingredient. Makes for a very useful multiple Cub hauler :D

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:03 pm
by Barnyard
Bob Perry wrote:Great work Bill !!! Give a smart guy like you a welder and the sky's the limit !

Bob, if you have ever seen my welding you would know I didn't do this. Gary Dotson can tell you, if I had done this I would be afraid to lay a feather on it for fear of the side falling off. :lol:

Here are a few more shots. I just need to fill the gap until I put a new board along the front. Once the weather warms I will pull it apart and get some paint on it all
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Here is how it looked before.
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The welder let his apprentice take a shot at welding some of it. I am confident it will hold up. For what Bill charged me, I will clean it up a little before it is painted.
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Re: Wider Load

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:29 pm
by Bob Perry
Ooops I thought you were the welder, I'll change my words to:

"Give a smart guy like you a phone to call a welder and the sky's the limit !"

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:52 am
by Steve Butram
Nice work. Just something to think of with the trailer wider you may encounter issues when you turn a sharp corner or jack knife the trailer. My trailer is 82" between the fenders. I have add an extension on the hitch when I tow it behind the motor home to keep the front corners from contacting the bumper in a sharp turn.

Now you can load those cub's on sideways :lol:

Steve

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:39 am
by Gary Dotson
You got it Bob, Bill's a very talented man, when he has a phone in his hand. A welder, not so much! We're working on that, though. He has a nice machine, he just needs to get some practice with it.

As to Steve's comment, we don't want to see the rear corners of that new Silverado munched up. Hook it up and check it out, especially when backing.

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:14 am
by Barnyard
Steve Butram wrote:Nice work. Just something to think of with the trailer wider you may encounter issues when you turn a sharp corner or jack knife the trailer.

Steve we took that into consideration befor starting. The tongue is long enough that we felt it would get into the bumper before the deck made contact with the truck. I hooked it up this morning in the -6º temps just to make sure.

Here the truck is not quite 90º.
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There is about 12" to go before the tongue hit and the deck has plenty of clearance around the fender.
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Re: Wider Load

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:52 pm
by ScottyD'sdad
Wow, winter there. 28 degrees, this morning, here. Nice modification, on the trailer. Ed

Re: Wider Load

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:28 pm
by CubitisNH
Bill-Are you going to move the marker lights out,or are they visible in the original location?
Mike