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New Wall

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:38 pm
by Barnyard
With the weather being nice around here for a few more days I thought I better get started on the wall I have been wanting to add to the shop so I can heat it this winter.

I took a peek inside the door and saw this! Yuck!!!
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So I started with this.
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And I put it here.
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Then I built another and put it on the other side of the post.
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All I have to do is insulate and sheet it as well as insulate the ceiling and install the furnace and I should be good to go this winter.

My first winter project better be a complete shop cleaning. :lol:

Re: New Wall

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:26 pm
by Rudi
Nicely done Bill :D

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:04 am
by Gary Dotson
Glad to see you're getting around to it, Bill! Once you have a heat-able shop space, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:23 am
by Winfield Dave
Good work Bill...I really like seeing progressive photos of a project.

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:07 am
by Jason (IL)
The shop space looks full already, (like mine).

I am waiting for my furnace to get hooked up, then I will have a 24 x 40 shop with heat. Looking like a plan coming together, like that.

Good luck, now with heat, you'll be able to keep busy all winter.

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:10 am
by Boss Hog
Looking good, but I would consider running the plywood the long way as it is stronger that way.
Boss

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:16 am
by Barnyard
Boss Hog wrote:Looking good, but I would consider running the plywood the long way as it is stronger that way.
Boss

Do you mean stand it up?

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:06 am
by cub47
Boss Hog wrote:Looking good, but I would consider running the plywood the long way as it is stronger that way.
Boss


Should not matter either way, I would be more concerned with getting the best yield out of your plywood sheeting and determine your vertical or horizontal mounting that way.

If you run it vertical you will have 16" spans of unsupported seams, whereas mounting horizontal as shown in your pics, will allow for a fully supported seam.

Of course that depends on whether you have the studs at 16 O.C.

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:14 am
by Ike
cubguy47 wrote:Should not matter either way, I would be more concerned with getting the best yield out of your plywood sheeting and determine your vertical or horizontal mounting that way.


I agree. On a non-supporting partition wall such as this, the sheathing is more about containing and protecting the insulation than strength.

http://osbguide.tecotested.com/osbfaqs
Quote from the above link to the OSB Guide.
"OSB wall sheathing panels may be installed either horizontally (across the supports) or vertically (parallel to the supports)."

Ike

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:53 pm
by spaceghost
Bill
What is the little window for in the middle of the wall? Are you going to be selling ice cream from the shop? I will take a hot fudge sunday with nuts lots of nuts

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:06 pm
by ricky racer
Great job! You know, with all this extra time you have on your hands these days, maybe I can talk you into making a trip to Michigan. I've got plenty of projects that could use your expertise. :lol: :lol:

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:50 pm
by Boss Hog
Yes Bill stand it up, It may not be important but it is the strongest way. I am sure a contractor is a member of the board somewhere and I feel that he or she will agree with me.It will also help to square the wall up.

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:17 pm
by Boss Hog
You may also want to double up the 2X4s where the door hinges will be , it will help keep the door from sagging after some use
Boss

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:23 pm
by Boss Hog
you need to have the studs on 16 in or 2 foot centers to may the plywood run out right any way

Re: New Wall

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:54 pm
by Barnyard
Bob, The window will be for Cubfest antendees to walk up and get any tools they need. Jeff Silvey will be satnding there and fetching anythin that is needed. Actually I have a big AC wall unit that will be going in there. As long as I leave the slider door open when it is in use it will work fine.

Now for the rest of the story. This is a temporay wall. It is only meant to be there for a couple years at the most so I do not want to spend a ton of my pension on it. Since there is no building weight on it I am not overly concerned about downward strength. The joists seen above the wall are actually resting on the original barn beams and are fully capable of doing their job. The door works fine and there is no worry about any sagging.

Now, if this were going to be a permanent fixture I would have dropped a few more bucks on it. After being a Building Manager and and Bulding Maintenace Specialst for most of my life, there are a few things I remember. :D

And yes, the studs are 16" on center.