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Welding Instruction

Postby pickerandsinger » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:48 am

Headed off to Florida in the next few days....Thought while I was their I'd get a stick welder and take some welding classes....I been goggleing it on the internet and can't find a thing in the Sarasota Venice area for instruction...Just a few classes etc would be better than nothing but searched to no avail...Anybody got any suggestions...Thought maybe if I bought a welder say at Lowes or something ( Lincoln) they might hold classes...No reply....Dave
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:52 am

No classes at Lowes. As a former employee, you wouldn't want anyone that works there teaching you to weld anyway. :D
Check the local vo-tech high schools or community colleges.
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Eugene » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:18 am

You should be able to find someone locally who could provide some welding lessons.

The local tech school Don mentioned. Local high school offering instruction in trades.

Neighbors. Lots of folks are proficient welders; farmers, employes at commercial establishments, construction companies.
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Jim Becker » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:43 am

If you go to a real welding supply company, they may be able to give you a lead (if not an actual class).
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:49 am

go to http://www.lincolnelectric.com and click on education. They have some pretty good training on line. Not as good as hands on with an instructor, but I learned most of my welding from the instruction section that came in my owners manual (welder was used, and manual ordered from Lincoln, long before the days of internet). One note, a 110V welder is pretty limited as to what it will do (1/8 inch metal is pretty much it's limit). You need a 220V rig to do any serious welding
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Eugene » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:37 am

pickerandsinger wrote:Thought maybe if I bought a welder say at Lowes.
Investigate local resources before purchasing a welder; consumables, supplies, service, knowledgeable personnel. In my case it's the local hardware store.

Stick welders are great, but for some welding a wire feed is a better choice. Also, wire feed welding might be easier to learn.
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Lee_Petrie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:47 am

It might be worth the extra investment and spend the additional monies for an AC & DC variety of the stick welder ! I find it easier to operate , nicer looking results , and more welding options , down the road , with the DC option ! I don't know if it still available , but I personally use a " High Frequency Arc Stablizer " , with the AC or DC outputs , sure helps on striking an arc in small areas, on rust , and painted areas , or even "spot welding" with a stick welder ( one of the real neat features ) ! Don' t forget to get one of those " auto-changing" welding lens , I wouldn't be without that , either ! Lee Petrie, Joliet, IL.
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby ricky racer » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:52 am

I agree with Lee about the DC. However, it does add considerably to the price. Puts it up there with a decent MIG welder, then you have another decision to make. :lol:
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby pickerandsinger » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:52 am

Thanks for the replies guys....I been to the hard knocks welding school, earned a lesser degree than most :lol: ....I got a MIG from Harbor Freight but never used the gas, just the flux wire...The duty cycle is small and instructions are vague....I definitely need an instructor but if all else fails, I'll do the Lincoln correspondence thing.. I think I'll hit a few welding shops down their and inquire also and I'll check where I live in the winter, they may be a weldor lurking in the shadows..Already checked all the schools etc I could find on line....Just thought I'd throw it out there...Be a good way to pass the time this winter waiting for spring plowing up here :lol: :thanx: Dave
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Lee_Petrie » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:20 pm

Your very correct on the price increase with the DC stick welders , Rick ! The way I personally see the home welding issues , what are you planning on welding , thin sheet metal ( the stick unit would be nearly worthless , even using the low penetration #7014 / 1/16" rods ) and on the other hand , on the thicker tractor parts and the cast iron parts , the home MIG welder would not be strong enough for a lot of those jobs ! I have both, more experience with the "stick" , use'ing the different rod #'s ( for various metal thickness and penetrations ) , the different rod diameters and amperage settings, work the best in my home shop ! Have you ever tried the " High Frequency Arc Stablizer " , Rick !
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby ricky racer » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:15 pm

Lee_Petrie wrote: Have you ever tried the " High Frequency Arc Stablizer " , Rick !
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No I haven't. Been a long time since I welded with a stick. My welder of choice now is TIG. I don't have one at home but I have access to one. :wink:

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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby Rudi » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Dave:

I know a couple welders up here that kinda teach on the side - hands on .. really practical with only a little of the theory with it. It will do to get you started if you can find a welder in the snowbird area that is amenable to that .. maybe a couple hours a week. It cost me $300.00Cdn for my 30 hour course so I would imagine a welder would/might be interested in some cash on the side... just a thought.

If you could find a local vocational tech or tech college that offers welding courses at night/weekends that would be the best ticket. I personally like the Tombstone style Lincoln's .. but get the AD/DC on if you can. Check your local craigslist/pennysaver etc., for a good used one .. that way a quality stick welder isn't way out of one's pocket book. That is where I got my Lincoln - my local Kijiji.

Just as a fer instance ... this is listed on my local Kijiji - Miller Model 400-SP Arc Welder $350.00
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Re: Welding Instruction

Postby pickerandsinger » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:25 am

That's a real good idea :!: ...I'll hit the welding shops when I get down there...( Got waylaid a bit, so I haven't left yet....)I'll send you a pm...Dave
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