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This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:01 am
by Stanton

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:52 pm
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
I believe it was a bolt on, and even with road gear was only about 6 mph. At the time these were made good gravel roads were rare, most roads were not much more than cowpaths, so the steel wheels may not have been too bad, plus they did not have to run at full throttle. People such as Jim that are more familiar with the F series may need to correct me though.

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:34 pm
by Stanton
That's probably right. But the overlay of the old F tractor with the thought of a more modern "road gear" (at faster speeds) made me smile. That's all.

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:25 pm
by muleboss
Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:14 pm
by John *.?-!.* cub owner
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?
no, many of those old F series and Regulars only had working gears, top speed of 4 or 5 mph.

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:22 pm
by Eugene
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?
Many earlier makes and model tractors did not have a "road" gear. They weren't very fast, lucky if 10 or so mph, in high gear.

Lot of older tractors are to slow, with out modification, to participate in tractor rides.

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:26 pm
by Mr E
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?
no, many of those old F series and Regulars only had working gears, top speed of 4 or 5 mph.


Yeah, my ole F12 runs a blazing 3 MPH in 3rd gear (road gear). :lol:

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:07 am
by Stanton
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?
no, many of those old F series and Regulars only had working gears, top speed of 4 or 5 mph.


Ha! Learned something new through all this: never knew that the older tractors didn't have a road gear. Thanks!

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:52 am
by Bus Driver
IH stated the speeds of the F12 to be 2 1/4, 3, and 3 3/4 mph. Talk about a close ratio transmission! The F12 was probably the nearest IH predecessor to the Cub. The F12 had a little more power, considerably more weight and would pull greater loads than the Cub.
Various aftermarket suppliers developed additions/modifications for the transmissions for some tractors. Some of the tractors were IH models. Some of the modifications in some instances sacrificed certain features of the original tractor. As best I can recall, one such required that the clutch be operated by a hand lever instead of the original foot clutch.
Suppliers were Sherman. Heisler, and F&W and others.
My information may be subject to correction.

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/tt ... e4099bb2ab

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:55 am
by Scrivet
Stanton wrote:
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?
no, many of those old F series and Regulars only had working gears, top speed of 4 or 5 mph.


Ha! Learned something new through all this: never knew that the older tractors didn't have a road gear. Thanks!

Some really old tractors only had one gear :shock: forward. OK, it was really two, they had reverse.

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:47 am
by Bus Driver
Reminds me of a joke. What did the snail say while riding on the back of a turtle? "Whee".

Thankfully, the distance to me is too far to throw a shoe!

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:54 pm
by muleboss
Sure they do. They all have a road gear. What ever gear you go down the road in. May not be called "road gear" by everyone but the fastest gear was usually a "road Gear".

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:34 am
by v w
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?

During WWII some Farmall H's were built on steel rather than on rubber as tires were scarce. As I understand it these tractors were not equipped with 5th gear. Vern

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:16 am
by Scrivet
v w wrote:
muleboss wrote:Stanton- Do not all tractors have a road gear?

During WWII some Farmall H's were built on steel rather than on rubber as tires were scarce. As I understand it these tractors were not equipped with 5th gear. Vern
Were not equipped or could not use? Wasn't there just a longer bolt in the top of the transmission that kept you from being able to shift it into 5th?

Re: This Struck Me as Funny...

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:20 am
by Gary Dotson
That's my understanding as well, Scrivet, 5th gear was there but was locked out.