Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:43 pm
I would like to plant some food plots next year and was wondering if a cub would be able to pull an International 510 grain drill & seeder with 16" holes and 7" spacing no hyraulics. I saw one for sale just wondering or do you have any other recommendations, thanks.
Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:14 pm
If there are no hydraulics I don't see why not. The 510 is 10ft wide ?
Grain drill/seeder seem like overkill for a deer plot, why not just broadcast seed and cultipack or harrow ?
Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:38 pm
Do it. You know you want that drill!
Really, I have no experience with it, but if you get it, we can all learn if it will pull it!
Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:09 pm
Couple weeks ago I purchased a 12 volt ATV type seeder for spreading lime, fertilizer and seed on a food plot. I mounted the seeder to a 3-point universal frame. 4 bolts to mount and dismount.
Weighs 19 pounds. Sits on the shelf in the garage when not in use. Total out of pocket cost, just under $180-.
Check with your local conservation, soil conservation district, dept of ag offices. They frequently have equipment to loan out (no cost or very low cost) for conservation related activities.
Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:47 pm
Sounds like a GREAT idea, feeding the deers ,but in some states ( I know for a fact Illinois) it is illegal to feed those harmless animals ! In fact just a group feed in one area can transmit a BAD disease from animal to another , one person was doing that down by Peoria , IL. not too long age, the state conservation officer fined him! On top of that issue, I was in a nursing home for recovery of my broken ankle ,and a man accross the hall was gorded in the leg (several inches into his leg in two places),because of a male deer that was in the "rutting ? season " and he didn't even feed the deer !
Just a word of advice, to who it may concern, Lee
Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:58 pm
State laws vary. Best to check. There is a difference between food plots and baiting.http://web.extension.illinois.edu/jacks ... s/6089.pdf
Food plots are a way the sportsman or nature enthusiast can provide nutrients for deer.
Currently, Illinois game law prohibits any other means of feeding whitetail deer. To clarify, salt
blocks, mineral blocks, feeding stations, lick pops, and all other like sources are illegal within the
state all year long. The change in this law came after the discovery of chronic wasting disease, a
disease which is spread by saliva of infected deer. Because of the potential to spread this
disease all attractants except food plots were banned.
Edit. Missouri provides advise, equipment and some times financial help to establish wild life habitat including food plots.
Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:35 am
Eugene & OliverFarmall thanks for the helpful information for planting a deer plot. I will now look for a broadcast spreader.
Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:42 am
How large are your food plots going to be?
Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:19 pm
Don, I have a 1 acre plot .
Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:27 pm
Pabst wrote:Don, I have a 1 acre plot .
I agree on the broadcast spreader. They can be had pretty reasonably. Try Tractor Supply or similar store. We do multiple quarter acre plots and use a shoulder mounted, manual broadcast spreader.
Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:35 pm
Don McCombs wrote:We do multiple quarter acre plots and use a shoulder mounted, manual broadcast spreader.
I have both the hand operated and manual/push type spreaders. They work well on small plots. The push type seeder/spreader gets to be a work out on 1/2 acre plots. Specially if the ground is not smooth.
My pending food plot is just over an acre. Ground will be rough, to rough for the push trype spreader, since this will be the first time it has been worked in many years.
The universal carrier is mounted on a WD Allis Chalmers. I mounted the spreader near the top of the carrier. This leaves enough room on the platform, below the spreader, for 3 each 100 lb bags of lime or fertilizer.
Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:39 am
This is the type speader that we use for the seed. Because the alfalfa and clover seeds are so small, a larger spreader would not be as controllable. Not bad for up to quarter acre sized plots, but I don't think I'd like doing a full acre with it. We use a three point broadcast spreader for pelletized lime and fertilizer. The ground is prepped with a three point tiller and the seed is rolled in as a final step. The setup works great.
Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:11 pm
Soil test. I did a soil test on my pending food plot. I need 795 lbs of lime (effective neutralizing material) and around/over 200 lbs of fertilizer per acre. Gonna be well over 1000 lbs of material by the time I get the required amount of lime and specific fertilizer requirements.
The soil test results were the deciding factor on buying the ATV 12 volt powered spreader.
Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:17 pm
We did about 3 50X100 food plots and the Cub plowed and the Oliver disced. Only thing we used was a push type broadcast spreader and they came up beautifully! Nice and even!
Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:27 am
You definitely need to test the soil to see what it needs
If the PH is way off it won't grow well and the plants can't use any fertilizer you put on.
There are two main types of plots warm and cool weather plots. Each provides deer forage for different times of the year. Rather than planting a field in just one type of feed its best to plant stuff in strips at different times of the year and rotate them over the years.
Read this for a good overview on different feed requirements deer need over the year.http://www.whitetailstewards.com/articl ... ticles.htm
Rye vs Wheat and Oats. Rye stays green longer and starts growing soonest in the spring and will grow good in a wider range of PH levels. It also puts nitrogen back into the soil for other plants where as wheat, oats use it up.http://www.qdma.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25851
Brassicas. High energy forage for deer going into winter.http://www.outreachoutdoors.com/phpBB3/ ... f=24&t=566
Drilling vs broadcasting seed.
Last year I broadcast my fields. But if I can get a small seed drill that my uncle gave me working I will use that next year. The problems with broad casting One you don't have any control of how deep the seed is planted Two you have to use more seed as some sits on top of the ground and gets cooked and some gets buried to deep to germinate. Three its hard to adjust it for proper seed per acre with a broadcaster. On the other hand its a lot easier to clean out and store.
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