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Poison Gas

Postby batty54 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:46 pm

I found this on another group.
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

It seems that brake cleaner and welding with a wire welder using argon gas mixes to turn to phosgene gas. The page takes a while to load but is a interesting read.

"Do NOT use brake cleaner to prep metal for welding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The warning was right on the can, it pays to read even though you know you know everything.
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby Joe Malinowski » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:56 pm

I guess its a good thing I am not allowed a welder.
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby daddydip » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:08 am

good post,this will be pasted on. thanks :big afro:
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby batty54 » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:59 pm

Thanks, I never had a use for brake cleaner but ran across a few cans in the recycle bin. I keep one on the work bench but will rethink where I use it. It was a cheap carb cleaner replacement, not any more. I can't imagine running it through an engine like carb cleaner.
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby Bill Hudson » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:48 pm

Trust me folks. You want nothing to do with phosgene. I used to make the stuff, as a raw ingredient in a nasty final product. It is a potent poisonous gas. One of my coworkers failed to heed good advice and paid the ultimate price. Heed batty's advice.

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Re: Poison Gas

Postby ScottyD'sdad » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:22 pm

Joe Malinowski wrote:I guess its a good thing I am not allowed a welder.

Joe, you shouldn't be trusted with any hot object, but especially, not a welder! Ed
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby Jackman » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:50 pm

I think argon straight up is also deadly, ifn I remember correctly .........
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby beaconlight » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:03 am

Battery acid and salt water is another killer. You get a cloud of greenish chlorine gas. While working on the DEW Line in Alaska many moons ago some one had saved the salt water from a dummy load for the rectifiers in an empty acid barrel. Another thinking it was acid went to top off a newly installed dry charge battery. Well you ncan figure the rest of the story.
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Re: Poison Gas

Postby Yogie » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:01 am

WOW :shock:
We use this stuff by the cases every week at work. I've read it causes cancer so I use shop gloves all the time now but I never knew this. I weld everyday at this same place so it would be so easy to mix the two...I'm thinking right now of times I might have crossed the two....
I always use it as a prep before painting cub stuff, evaps fast and leaves no oil or even finger prints behind.
I'll be sure to tell the guys tomorrow morning at work. :wink:
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