Repower for 1978 184

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Repower for 1978 184

Postby mbalsup » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:34 pm

Here I sit looking at my partially disassembled, tired 184 with a Kubota V2203 deisel sitting next to it. Am I crazy? Has anyone done this before?

I am retired and the 184 is up for restoration. I am tired of the anemic C60 gas engine that chokes when the PTO and belly mower engage.

Kubota is rated for 34+HP at 2200rpm.

Looking for your input....

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Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby Bob McCarty » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Gary Dotson put a Kubota 3 cylinder diesel in an F Cub (and called it Cubota) so it can be done. There were lots of mods that he had to make to fit it in and replace Cub parts. Here's a link that shows some picture on the second page: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76473&p=614598&hilit=cubota#p614598
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Joined: Fri May 05, 2017 9:30 am
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Tractors Owned: IH184
Cub Cadet 123
Simplicity Legacy 4WD
Simplicity 7119 repower ed to 23 HP
Simplicity 7018
Simplicity 4011
AC 912
AC716
Wheel Horse 12HP
3 John Deere 110's
National reel mower w^sully pwrd by Clinton 3HP
Location: DeKalb, Illinois

Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby mbalsup » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:51 pm

I have seen that, thanks. V2203 is a 4 cylinder. As far as fab, I have a "very complete" shop. I've been restoring european, Japanese and American cars for clients, part-time for almost 40 years. I'n not afraid of fab work.

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Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby Eugene » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:38 pm

Rebuilding the C60 engine will greatly improve the tractor's performance.

2nd answer. Since the Cub is under powered and to light weight for many tasks, buy a bigger more modern tractor.
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Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:42 pm

I understand the challenge of doing something because you want to, or because you can. But, I have to agree with Eugene. Get a bigger tractor.
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Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:18 am

The engine in Cubota is a four cylinder V-800, about 20hp at considerably higher rpm than the C-60. Personally, I think your 2203 is much too large for your application, you won't be able to use even half of it's output. I've seen several number series tractors with diesel conversions using various engine brands. That's a pretty easy one to convert, but I would choose a smaller engine. Save that one for a Super A conversion.

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Re: Repower for 1978 184

Postby outdoors4evr » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:05 am

The frame of the 184 enables easier engine swaps. The tractor is not depending on the engine block for structural integrity. Do some measuring to see if the engine will fit within the frame without cutting a lot of material from the frame.

I do agree with others though, a rebuilt 184 is a very capable mowing machine. You would probably be satisfied with a well-rebuilt engine. Upgrades such as a pertronix iginition may also be helpful. The years of use and thousands of hours of wear have likely robbed half the horsepower.
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