BigBill wrote:Now you have my interest in a 154 hydro again. I wonder if a cub cadet tranny would work with the 154 final drives and a hydraulic oil cooler. It would need a larger capacity tank for more hydraulic oil so heat won't be a problem. We need to keep the hydraulic oil way below its flash point. Since the gear reduction finals are installed it will keep the extra load off the tranny. Now I just wonder how strong the cadet hydro tranny really is? Or will a hydraulic motor with a standard tranny with the finals be better and stronger? A hydro tranny would be better in my project.
I just want a working fel & backhoe in the end with this one with power steering. With out a 40k price tag g have the double ended cylinder for power steering that will mount on the front axle beam. New heavier spindles and hubs are needed I already have those too. I boxed the front half of the frame with channel and boxed the front part under the radiator frame.
Sorry bout dragging up an old topic but after my creeper is giving me fits in low range somthing like this is definitely an option. I am wondering if anyone is still considering this swap ?
I wouldn't worry too much about the heat, I used to collect and rebuild Cub Cadets till recently and many of the hydro models were so crudded up all around the hydro with the fans missing or broken that they had no way to cool themselves. And still, they operated fine. The hydro trannys are definitely strong enough to handle the C60 engine. There is a Cadet hydro near me used for pulling and the guy has a 4.3 Chevy V-6 on it. I've been told he's never had any tranny problems. Axle shafts are a different story lol. But with 150 some Hp it's almost guaranteed. The trickier part would be to make the hydro linkage work, but even that shouldn't be too bad. I've seen where guys on the Cub Cadet boards converted them to foot peddle operation. One other thing is the input shaft on the Cadet hydro is higher than the standard shift input shaft. I don't see why you couldn't make a drive shaft with universals at each end to make up the difference.
I also don't think the difference in speed would really be that much of a deal. My 1450 would move faster than my 154 in high gear so even with the drop in RPM of the C60 I don't think there will be much difference in top speed. I never use 3rd in my 154 anyhow so it certainly wouldn't bother me any.
I just happen to have a complete CC 1250 hydro tranny, I may have to consider this if my creeper is going to be cost prohibitive to repair. I need to take it apart this week.Edit for added info:
I would also stay away from the newer hydro trannys as they have an aluminum case. Most guys I know that were taking them to plow days or just using them hard replaced the case with the older cast iron case found in the 123 through the 1650. I don't remember if the red series (582-982) were all cast iron, but I believe they were.