Question about the TC-131 Manual (154 Loboy)

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Question about the TC-131 Manual (154 Loboy)

Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:03 am

Does anyone have access to the "ENG-1" Parts catalog for the 154 Loboy? Looking at Rudi's manual server, here's what I see for the 154 Loboy.

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Postby bob in CT » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:20 am

I'll have to let Rudi reply to let us know if he has that in raw files that have not been processed.

The tractor uses the same C-60 engine so the basics will be similar to the older Cub and Lo-Boy manuals. However, I am sure one of the 154 guys will chime in with the differences, if any.

I hope to get a hard drive full of files after Cecil gets back from Rudi's. I can let you know if something is in that data and try to format that first if the information you need is not in one of the older manuals.

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Postby Into Tractors » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:23 am

Lance, not sure, but we have been scanning a lot of stuff and converting it into PDf files, I can check my files when I get home and see if I have anything.

Anything in particular you are looking for? The engine's are pretty much the same. Exceptions are the starter/gen setup, exhaust as you already have, and the radiator and such. The engine itself is still the same pretty much as the standard cub.

Take a look at the I&T manual that is on Rudi's site, it might give you more info you are looking for?

http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/I&T%20 ... index.html
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Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:37 pm

Right now I'd like to use it for reference, but I do have one serious question about the 154 engine. Does it use the same dipstick and tube as the later standard cubs? The one on the 154 both the tube and dipstick are bent and taking a reading is mostly just a guess right now. So, I'd like to replace them both with ones that do fit.
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Postby Into Tractors » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:57 pm

I think they used a longer one, here's a thread sometime back with pictures of 3 styles of the dipstick.
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... hlight=oil

Pretty certain it take's 3 qts, just like the other Cubs. Might just go ahead and change the oil, check the level after putting in 3 qts and see if it registers on the stick?

You're in luck if you need another dipstick, HamiltonBob has one on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CUB-IH-LO-BOY-TRACT ... dZViewItem

as well as the tube:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CUB-IH-LO-BOY-TRACT ... dZViewItem
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Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:11 pm

Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to spend some money. It looks like someone took a hammer to pound the dipstick on at some point, the top is crushed in. :roll:
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Postby Into Tractors » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:14 pm

This is the one you got from Joe, right?

It had been treated pretty bad, he replaced a lot of different things on it, most of them he got from HamiltonBob.

You might try sending Bob an email or PM, apparently he has a lot of spare parts.
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Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:20 pm

Yep Mike, that's the one from Joe. It runs really well, but it has been used for sure. I hate to admit it, but I did break down and buy the other half of the wiring harness from Ken at C&G, there is at least one short in the wire that I've found and just decided that for sanity sake to start from square one. But I did manage to drive it for a few minutes, to make my wife happy, otherwise she does question my sanity sometimes. :lol: OK most of the time.

Now if I could just ever find a better looking grill. :roll:
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Postby Into Tractors » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:21 pm

But I did manage to drive it for a few minutes

Does that mean you have the clutch un-frozen?
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Postby Jim Becker » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:31 pm

The 154 dipstick and tube are identical to the later one on the Farmalls.
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Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:34 pm

I did. Quick story about that. When I got the trailer back home, my father-in-law did a double take. For some reason, he thought I was buying another cub cadet. Anyway, he was out bush-hogging with his Ford 800. He asked, what do you want to work on first? I told him about the stuck clutch, his response "Want it unstuck?"

"Sure" was my response. Here's what we did. We hooked a towing strap from the front of his Ford to the Front of the 154. With him going backwards, he pulled the 154 with it in 3rd gear, two pops of the clutch later, it was free.

In driving it around, I found that the tractor wanted to go even with the clutch down. If I also held the brakes down, I could shift from gear to gear with the engine running. As Joe found, there is still slop in the clutch release yoke, but the major problem was the clutch brake was completely out of adjustment. Once I made that adjustment, I'm pretty sure I can drive it now without needing to hold the brake pedal down to shift.

Currently I'm replacing the leaking fuel bowl and setting the float on the carb as it is flooding right now. All in all, I think it should be in good shape after this work.

I'm still sorry that Joe didn't get this to work for him, he was really really close, but I'm sure the clutch pushed him over the edge. I suspect it would have me too if I had done all of his work and didn't have all the bugs worked out.
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Postby Lance Leitzel » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:35 pm

Thanks Jim. One last question, does it use the same drain tube for the oil filter, right now it looks like someone just put some sort of threaded plug in its place.
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Postby Rudi » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:37 pm

Lance:

I have the ENG-1. Revison 7 must have 250 or 300 pages..

The Dipstick that is called out is:

251 362 R92 Gage W/Breather Cap, Oil Level - Engine Serial No. 501 - 210189

366 697 R91 Gage W/Breather Cap, Oil Level - Engine Serial No. 210190 and Above.

Does this help?

And it will be sometime this winter before I can get it scanned.. it is huge ... but good, clean and clear.
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Postby Jim Becker » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:42 pm

The same drain tube -- 3/8 x 5 7/8 pipe and a cap. I think replacement engines came with a plug and no pipe (at least some of the time).
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Postby bob in CT » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:41 pm

Rudi,

Send that to me if you wish, the sooner the better. I can scan 300 pages double-sided in less than 1/2 hour.
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