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184 ground breaking
Can anyone tell me if this would work on my 184? The seller doesn't know much about it and it doesn't have tags or stickers still. Any idea on what model? Thanks!
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Re: Tiller identification
The one in this post (http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=87471) seems to be the same one. Perhaps you can send gitractorman a PM and he can help you identify.
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Re: Tiller identification
Maybe an International "#2 Rotary Tiller"? https://gardentractortalk.com/forums/topic/61367-installing-cub-2-tiller-on-1811/
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Re: Tiller identification
Looks quite a bit like it...
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Re: Tiller identification
This looks like it is designed for the cub cadet line. There would be a couple of challenges to overcome.
1) Mounting - The CAT0 3-point for a cadet vs the CAT1 3-point for a 184. (Do you have a 3-point?)
2) Powering - For belt drive, you would need a 90 degree gearbox with a "right sized" pulley and some way to keep the belt tight. (The last part seems the hardest)
3) Speed - Tillers need a very slow forward motion usually accomplished with a creeper (installed between the engine and transmission). (Do you have a creeper?)
Perhaps #2 & #3 could get addressed by self-powering the tiller with a pony engine. Then the pony engine could run at a high RPM while the 184 just idles along in first.
1) Mounting - The CAT0 3-point for a cadet vs the CAT1 3-point for a 184. (Do you have a 3-point?)
2) Powering - For belt drive, you would need a 90 degree gearbox with a "right sized" pulley and some way to keep the belt tight. (The last part seems the hardest)
3) Speed - Tillers need a very slow forward motion usually accomplished with a creeper (installed between the engine and transmission). (Do you have a creeper?)
Perhaps #2 & #3 could get addressed by self-powering the tiller with a pony engine. Then the pony engine could run at a high RPM while the 184 just idles along in first.
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
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Re: Tiller identification
I like the idea of replacing the belt with a PTO like GitTractorMan has.
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Re: Tiller identification
Looks like it fit the older Cub Cadet lawn mower line.
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Re: Tiller identification
Thanks guys, sounds like it won't work very easily. I do have a 3pt but I do not have a creeper. I would like to use this tractor to put in a first time garden at my property I just bought last fall. What do you guys suggest? Does anyone use a single or two bottom plow with these tractors? I was thinking maybe going with plow/disc/cultipack method since tiller doesn't sound like a very easy option.
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Re: 184 ground breaking
Do you have a single bottom plow and disc?
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Re: 184 ground breaking
Don McCombs wrote:Do you have a single bottom plow and disc?
I have a disc and thinking of buying a plow. What has anyone used with success?
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Re: 184 ground breaking
My reason for asking that question is that you’ll be breaking new ground in preparing your garden. Rather than rushing to buy a plow, get someone, with a bigger tractor, to plow this first year. Then work it up with your 184 and disc. That will give you time to find a suitable plow in your price range, for next year.
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Re: 184 ground breaking
Don McCombs wrote:My reason for asking that question is that you’ll be breaking new ground in preparing your garden. Rather than rushing to buy a plow, get someone, with a bigger tractor, to plow this first year. Then work it up with your 184 and disc. That will give you time to find a suitable plow in your price range, for next year.
But that isn't nearly as fun LOL I also want to put in a food llot for the deer so I would like to do this myself if able.
Do you think this tractor won't handle it? I was thinking a 3pt two bottom plow
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Re: 184 ground breaking
I have a 154. My opinion it's a nice lawn mower, wasn't designed for and a bit under powered for farm work, implements are hard to find.hoythunter25 wrote:Do you think this tractor won't handle it? I was thinking a 3pt two bottom plow
Either have someone plow up the deer food plot or purchase a slightly larger standard farm tractor.
Side note. Been watching the prices of advertised used farm tractors. Prices appear to have fallen a bit.
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Re: 184 ground breaking
Another disadvantage is your rear tires. How wide are they? They probably won't fit in the furrow a plow would make. That tractor more than likely won't pull a 2 bottom plow.
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Re: 184 ground breaking
Everyone is correct above, the tiller is for a Cub Cadet, and won't work on your 184.
Here is a good post for you to review:
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 1&t=101109
The 184 will certainly work with a plow, but I think you need to get a fairly small, Cat 1, 3-point hitch plow. The IH-310 plow will be hard to find. You'll probably want to get a set of ag tires for the rear, or run tire chains on your turf tires to keep from slipping. I'd vote for the ag tires. The standard, narrow rims for the 154/185/184 tractors are welded dishes and rims, but a set of standard rims from a Farmall Cub will work with the spacing set correctly (dished out and lugs on the outside) and there are tons of them available. Standard Cub wheel weights will work on those rims too, which can be really helpful!
Here is a good post for you to review:
http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 1&t=101109
The 184 will certainly work with a plow, but I think you need to get a fairly small, Cat 1, 3-point hitch plow. The IH-310 plow will be hard to find. You'll probably want to get a set of ag tires for the rear, or run tire chains on your turf tires to keep from slipping. I'd vote for the ag tires. The standard, narrow rims for the 154/185/184 tractors are welded dishes and rims, but a set of standard rims from a Farmall Cub will work with the spacing set correctly (dished out and lugs on the outside) and there are tons of them available. Standard Cub wheel weights will work on those rims too, which can be really helpful!
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