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Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:06 pm

I'm not sure mine has a 3 point mode, I do not have a selector valve, I think it may be tied into the same cylinder as the deck cylinder.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:04 am

There is a separate cylinder for the rockshaft and the 3-point hitch. The 3-point can be tee'd into the hose or a selector valve may be added.
When tee'd in, the cylinder with the least weight on it actuates first, then the other one. So if you have a mower deck connected to the rockshaft and nothing on the 3-point, then the 3-point will actuate first and when it gets to a stop then the rockshaft will actuate. You can quickly tire of waiting on the 3-point to actuate so a lockout bar is available. This disables the 3-point.
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Here's a picture of the hydraulic selector valve (partially installed) on my 184.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:07 pm

Apparently mine does not have a selector valve, yet. ;)

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:12 am

That Tee is exactly where the selector valve goes. If you buy one, just make sure that you also get the supporting brackets with the valve.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Sun May 05, 2019 8:04 pm

The donor tractor got some use today. Had been wanting to see if it would run, ended up rebuilding the carb and putting some points on it, it fired right up and was able to pull my working tractor out of a sticky situation. I was pulling small bushes/shrubs out with it and lost 1st and reverse. It feels like its going in third and fourth, but it stalls in those gears. When it "feels" like its in neutral, its actually in reverse, will have to troubleshoot that tomorrow after work.

The donor tractor ran well, but I noticed I couldn't get the creeper gear into low, shifter arm moves, but it never falls into low. Also it appears there is no hydraulics, when I move the valve, nothing happens, will also have to troubleshoot that. Maybe the donor becomes the working tractor! So much fun!
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Mon May 06, 2019 9:06 pm

Fixed the working tractor today, had to borrow a fork from the donor tractor for now. The donor tractor was welded where it the part folds into itself, not sure if that was a factory change or a farmer fix, seems pretty smart and would be hard to brake again like that.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue May 07, 2019 7:57 am

The weld is a common farmer fix. New parts are readily available.
https://hamiltonbobs.com/cart/search/dr ... lo-boy-mm4
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Thu May 09, 2019 7:17 pm

This one arrived today in the mail, from Hamalton Bobs. It has a weld already in place, should last a long time.
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby Jim Becker » Fri May 10, 2019 10:34 am

I believe that IH added that weld to later forks.

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:58 am

A quick update on anybody wanting to add a 3 point, I tried to include as much detail as I could.

https://youtu.be/TFrb44vEsdc

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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:53 am

Nice Video!
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Re: Adding a 3 point and a creeper gear to a 154?

Postby ibdilbert » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:05 pm

I know this is an old thread, but this update may help others.

Adding a creeper gear.
https://youtu.be/5045PcLhrvA?si=CTje6cKzDnbBBaRj

Adding a 3 point.
https://youtu.be/TFrb44vEsdc?si=SZaH3WXX-lVhwoC1


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