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[185] Gear Box lubrication location
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[185] Gear Box lubrication location
Are these the proper locations to put in the fluid. Also, would 90W Gear oil be satisfactory and if not, what is the preferred fluid to put in.
Thanks!
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Download and follow the info in this service manual. It should have all the information that you need plus a lot more.
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=101471
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=101471
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
staninlowerAL wrote:Download and follow the info in this service manual. It should have all the information that you need plus a lot more.
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=101471
Thank you again. I was just wondering if this was the right location, i had looked in the operator's manual and it was kind of generic however it did show what type of fluid to put in (HY-Tran) but was wondering if something else could be used safely.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Use only HY-tran or equivalent. Reason, the transmission/differential case is the reservoir for the hydraulic system
I have an excuse. CRS.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Eugene wrote:Use only HY-tran or equivalent. Reason, the transmission/differential case is the reservoir for the hydraulic system
Oooooooh, thank you... that makes perfect sense. But those are the Inputs for the Hy-Tran right?
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
The two plugs in the pictures are for the finals . The plug for the trans is on the rear diff cover between the plugs in the pictures .
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
The service manual Section 9 above has a lube section starting on page 187. You can download the lubrication info for a 154 which will be very similar by selecting the Operator's Manual R-1, 10-68 from the Manuals tab at Quick links above and get the entire lubrication section on pages 41-44. The lubrication location point guide looks like this:
Click on the picture makes it larger. There's also the 154 Owner's Manual available which contains more detailed information.
Click on the picture makes it larger. There's also the 154 Owner's Manual available which contains more detailed information.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Eugene wrote:Use only HY-tran or equivalent. Reason, the transmission/differential case is the reservoir for the hydraulic system
Eugene is correct on this. The previous owners of our 154 used ATF and it leaked out. The reason I know this is when I started to repair the tractor last year and I was going to flush the fluids in the main gearbox... it looked empty from the filler hole! The residual fluid in the hydraulic filter when I changed it was red, (it's supposed to be clear!).
It is not terribly hard to change the fluid in the axles, remove the tires and undo the bolts on the housings and pray the gaskets don't rip.
Napa sells the equivalent Hy-Tran and it's worked great so far.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Ouch! ATF is more of a fluid than a lubricant.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Hytran was red at one time and may still be red. That may be the reason for the red fluid in the filter.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
I do hope you're right! The fluid in the axles was clear when I changed it though, and I know that those haven't been flushed in about 30 years or more.
I've checked the fluid numerous times in the main case and the fluid level hasn't changed. I suspected it was ATF because it may have leaked out.
I've checked the fluid numerous times in the main case and the fluid level hasn't changed. I suspected it was ATF because it may have leaked out.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Clear is probably water or Kerosene.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
It was definitely a lubricant of what it's hard to say. But the hydraulic fluid I'm using now is also clear.
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
What is the clear hydraulic fluid you are currently using? Is it hytran compatible?
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Re: [185] Gear Box lubrication location
Yes it is, I took a couple pics including the label showing the hytran compatibility. Cheers
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