Pressing Apple Cider

Farming and rural life discussion forum. Cooking, hunting, gardening, fishing, critters, etc.

Moderator: Team Cub

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 14319
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:21 pm

Bummer. Don't you have a pulley attachment on a Cub? One of the other tractors?

The last time I had to remove a gib key, the head finally popped off the key. As I recall, I finally drilled (and chiseled) the key out.

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:23 am

Jim Becker wrote:Bummer. Don't you have a pulley attachment on a Cub? One of the other tractors?

The last time I had to remove a gib key, the head finally popped off the key. As I recall, I finally drilled (and chiseled) the key out.


I have a belt pulley on the B and the H. I'm not sure how fast they turn at an idle, but maybe I could go that route. I'm looking for 80-100rpm at the flywheel of the cider press. Maybe I'll try that out tonight.
Jim

Circle of Safety

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 14319
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:21 am

You may not be able to get slow enough. The pulley shaft runs 1,156 rpm at engine speed of 1,400. With the standard pulley (8 1/2 inch), That turns into 2,573 feet per minute. If you idle down to 600 rpm, you are still at 1,103 fpm. The H numbers are similar, 9 3/4 inch pulley at 1,019 rpm for 2,601 fpm.

I'm guessing the diameter of your pulley on the press. If it is 24 inches, the circumference is 75.4 inches or 6.28 feet. At 100 rpm, you need 628 fpm. That is about half what the tractor will run. This puts you back at your earlier problem of finding a much smaller pulley for the tractor end.

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:30 am

Thanks for doing the math for me, Jim. The press flywheel is around 24". I think we will just hand crank as we have done in the past. I'm bummed as I have envisioned using this exact engine for this purpose for over 8 years. I was so close too!
Jim

Circle of Safety

outdoors4evr
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1864
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm
Zip Code: 48370
Tractors Owned: 184
Location: Oxford, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:02 pm

Sounds like you need a Hub City PTO reducer for that 2.43:1 ratio. Then adapt a belt drive to it.
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:49 pm

outdoors4evr wrote:Sounds like you need a Hub City PTO reducer for that 2.43:1 ratio. Then adapt a belt drive to it.


This is fixing to become some expensive cider!
Jim

Circle of Safety

User avatar
Stanton
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 5670
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:56 am
Zip Code: 64070
Tractors Owned: 1942 Farmall AV, serial #87025
1947 Farmall Circle Cub, serial #2116
1948 Farmall Cub, serial #46066
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Lone Jack, MO

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Stanton » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:00 pm

Don't let the mishap overshadow your pressing date. Hoping good weather will reign and everyone will have a great time.
Stanton
Image Circle of Safety

User avatar
Bill Hudson
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 8472
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:50 am
Zip Code: 44057
Tractors Owned: 57 F-Cub - Dad & Mom's Cub
77 F-Cub - Red Long Stripe
52 F-Cub
49 F-Cub
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: OH, Madison

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:05 pm

Urbish wrote:This is fixing to become some expensive cider!


Oh, but think of how much fun you're having.

Bill
"The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop." Edwin Conklin, biologist

Image
Member of Ohio Chapter #6

john2189
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 1203
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:17 pm
Zip Code: 44657
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Minerva,Ohio

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby john2189 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:26 pm

Those tapered keys are fun to get out! You need a small tapered wedge to get it out. Get some pressure on the wedge then tap on the hub,then the wedge again. But since the flywheel is scrap anyway, take a saws all and cut it off. I doubt you would want to braze those spokes? Would you?
John
'49 Cub (Vince)
'72 cub (Cecilia)
'41 allis B
'42 Allis B

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:46 am

No, I'm not going to braze the flywheel. I have a line on another one and will cut/break the one I have to get it off. I still need to braze or replace the governor weight plate behind the flywheel.
Jim

Circle of Safety

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:14 am

It's pressing time!
Attachments
1570885879553image.jpg
Jim

Circle of Safety

User avatar
Stanton
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 5670
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:56 am
Zip Code: 64070
Tractors Owned: 1942 Farmall AV, serial #87025
1947 Farmall Circle Cub, serial #2116
1948 Farmall Cub, serial #46066
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Lone Jack, MO

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Stanton » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:32 am

Go for it! I'm seeing some sun and shadows in the background and no rain. I'm taking that is good October weather!

Let us know how it turned out.
Stanton
Image Circle of Safety

User avatar
Urbish
5+ Years
5+ Years
Posts: 1849
Joined: Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:45 pm
Zip Code: 48158
Tractors Owned: ~
1958 International Cub LoBoy
1948 Farmall Cub
1947 Farmall H
1946 Farmall B
1953 Willys CJ3B

Cub-193 Moldboard Plow
Cub-54A Leveling and Grader Blade
Cub Loboy L-54 Leveling and Grader Blade
Unknown 5' Single Gang Disc Harrow
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Manchester, MI

Re: Pressing Apple Cider

Postby Urbish » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:35 am

Rain ended overnight. High of 50 and mostly sunny skies. I'll take it! 7 gallon pot full of chili. Perfect.
Jim

Circle of Safety


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farm Life and Better Half Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests