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How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby Ida Red » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:44 am

Is a 1650 a reliable unit.
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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby gitractorman » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:38 pm

Red,
Everything I said about the 1450 you asked about, is the same for the 1650. Same tractor with a 16-hp kohler single cylinder engine instead of a 14. Quite the tank, and known to be a real brute, but the 16-hp engine will really shake you to death especially if the ISO mounts are worn out, or if someone has eliminated them and bolted the engine directly to the frame. The 1650 tractors are often found with dual hydraulic controls, one for the lift and one for the front hydraulic ports for a hydraulic angling snow blade.

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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby Ida Red » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:18 pm

Hey Bill, thanks for the info once again.
Are you an advisor on this site or do you just have a ton of IH knowledge, or both. Les
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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby Stanton » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:42 am

Agree with gitractorman. The whole quiet line series were good tractors. Only weak spot I've heard of was the engine isolating mounts. But I believe they are still available. Might check for your particular model.
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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby SundaySailor » Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:28 am

Ida Red wrote:Hey Bill, thanks for the info once again.
Are you an advisor on this site or do you just have a ton of IH knowledge, or both. Les


As I remember it, Bill's family sold a lot of Cubs and Cub Cadets. He has tons of experience with them.

Seems like I remember him absconding with a pristine Cub Cadet 125 or was it a 105 about a year ago?

Yes, he has quite a bit of knowledge. He's helped me and others numerous times.
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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby gitractorman » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:01 am

Thanks guys! No, I'm not a moderator, but I'm on here nearly every day and have lived with Cub Cadet equipment my whole life. Growing up my family owned a huge IH dealership in southern Ohio, where I spent most of my free time working on tractors. They started business in 1935 as an IH truck dealer, took on Ag equipment in the 1940s, took on Cub Cadets when they came out in 1961, and my father still runs the business today as a Cub Cadet lawn and garden dealership. So, you could say it's in my blood. I think at last count I've personally owned over 60 Cub Cadets, and around 20 Cubs or Lo Boys, and I generally have one or two around all the time. I generally restore or re-build something each winter, and usually keep them a year or two or until someone else wants it more than me.

That 125/145 (125 with a 14-hp engine in it and the frame notched and gusseted like a 147) I restored last year I had taken to a local tractor show, then had it out in my driveway one day while cleaning out the garage. A guy down the street who drag races tractors (yes, he's got a stretched frame Cub Cadet with a Polaris snowmobile engine in it that they've clocked at 75 mph!) stopped in and offered me $2000 cash for it if I'd drop it off at his house. So, later that day it was in his garage. Later that summer he won 1st place at a big county tractor show, and has a nice 3-foot tall trophy with it now..

My wife and I just found out our offer on a new house here on Grand Island was accepted, so I'm anxious to get moving on that. I have a nice 3 car garage here, and a small 12x16 shed, but the new house has the same size attached garage plus a 24 x 26 pole barn!!!!! The storage space has always been one of my biggest limiting factors, and really why I've rarely kept a Cub around, just because they take up so much space. Although, for a while I had a 77 Cub, a 65 Lo Boy, a Cub Cadet 124, a 4416 Simplicity Sovereign, and my Simplicity Conquest mowing machine. That was a bit much, and the wife didn't like parking her car outside.

Right now I'm just down to two, my Simplicity Legacy 4x4 and the Cub Cadet 682 that I worked on over the winter. I may try to leave that with the house if I can get a little more out of the selling price of our house. Oh yea, that's also going on, so this spring is going to be a bit nuts for me!

Back to the 1650, I've had two of them. Great machines and real tanks! Yes, you can still get the ISO mounts from a dealer, but if you look online there are several pages with guys who have come up with "upgrades" for the ISO mounts. I've never tried them but I'm sure those guys have come up with some good ideas. I can get factory parts at cost, so I typically just place my order whenever I need something.
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Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby Ida Red » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:26 am

Hey Bill thanks for the little history on you tractor background.Were you a GI?
What is a running undone 682 and 382 worth?
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Simplicity Conquest
Simplicity Legacy 4x4 Diesel
Mitsubishi MT180D 4x4 Diesel
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Location: Grand Island, NY

Re: How is the Rep. of a Cadet 1650

Postby gitractorman » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:02 pm

GI is for Grand Island, NY where I live.

The 382 is a little lawn tractor and I wouldn't give anything for one. Basically a go-cart, not really a tractor. I guess if someone gave me one that was in decent enough shape, I might play around with it, but really they were a cheap, entry level machine, not ever built to handle much work at all.

A decent 682 running with a decent mower deck should be worth about $750, but it's hard to say. I've seen them anywhere from $500 to $1500. The biggest problem with the 682 and 782 is the KT-17 Kohler Series I engine. The Series I engine that came in those tractors was junk, so most that I've seen either have the KT-8.5 syndrome (one piston is blown and it's still runs, but has no power) or they've had new engines installed. The one I found has a brand new KT-17 Series II engine in it with no hours on it. The Series II engines have full pressure lubrication, so they will run forever.
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