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Postby jostev » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:19 pm

I got a 1450 today at a local auction, the guy said it was in good mechanical shape, and i believe him cause he's a friend and knows his stuff... it was used as a "tug" to drag stuff around the rental yard, so it probably hasn't had much use... just wondering ifn you guys could help me a little on the year? i got this serial numer off of the side, 2050660U635218* i haven't had a chance to really check it out yet, as it was pitch black when i gots home :evil: also, is it for sure a 1450 :?: also do you guys think it was worth 280$? also, what do you guys think of these tracotrs? are they any good? ifn not, i'll just fix it a little and sell it and find another one :lol:

Thanks for any help

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Postby gitractorman » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:45 pm

Johnny,
Man, if it's running and all of the pieces are there, you got a great deal. The important part of the serial no is the end, 635218, which tells you that it was built in Sept/Oct of 1978. The first part of the serial no. is the Kind Code, 205. The next part is the Machine Code, 0660 which does stand for a 1450 model tractor.

The 1000 series Cub Cadets were some of the most popular, and were built between October 1974 and August 1979. They were the first Quiet Line cadets, and the only ones to utilize an ISO mounted engine, where the engine is mounted on a plate, with rubber bushings between it and the frame. They were also the first to utilize a fully enclosed hood, quieter muffler and engine shrouding to help cool and quiet the engine, self dumping hydro units, and Kohler engines with seperate starters and generators, unlike the older cadets with Delco Starter/generators.

Personally, one of my favorite CC tractors. You should watch the engine because they are prone to wearing out the ISO mounts, and the replacement mounts are better than the factory originals. The gear drive models are much more prone to doing this, but if yours was used as a Tug, you will probably want to go ahead and change them before they screw up the drive shaft coupling. You can tell by grabbing the engine and shaking it side to side. If it moves much, replace the ISO mount.

Yours is one of the later models, which means that it may have the 1" front axle spindles, which was a much needed improvement. The tractor is the second series of the "wide frame" cadets, so most of the CC implements you look for will fit it.

Get some pictures up when you get a chance.
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Postby Paul B » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:53 pm

Johnny
The S/N says it was built in September 1978.

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Postby jostev » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:01 pm

Thanks Bill and Paul, i guess that i was so excited about it :lol: i forgot to post my link to the pics :oops: http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/j ... type=local

well, at an old IH dealership i remember a cab, blade, and blower for a wide frame CC and i'm purty srue it was a 1450-1650, i guess i'm gonna have to see ifn i can get back there 8)

Thanks guys, i'll take a look at it tomorrow to see ifn I need new iso's, can i get them from a CC dealer?

Johnny

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Postby wdeturck » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:42 pm

Johnny: The ISO mounts are available
759-3952 MOUNT KIT-MOTOR 15.07
You will need 4 of these. There are MOOG parts out there but I don't know the numbers. If your mounting plates doesn't have a bar weld between them you want to do that at this time also. I would save the old top ISO mounts as the are usually still good and maybe you will only have to buy 2? I never did this but it's been brought up many times and you should get more and better information off of the guys who have done it.

You can't buy a 14HP Kohler engine for $280
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Postby jostev » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:52 pm

Thanks, i think i will wait untill spring or somthin because i don't think i'm gonna use it much/at all this winter, and i have some other things t buy before i get these :lol: thanks though, i will write these numbers down and save them for next year...

btw, what does this have for a motor? like the model? K_ _ _ :?:

Thanks for the help :!:

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Postby Paul B » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:12 pm

A 1450 should have a K-321 AQS, 14 hp engine. The A = Special oil pan, the Q = Quiet model, the S = Electric start.

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Postby Snotzalot » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:51 am

So Geezer what would a motor alone cost these days? Say for my 1650 not so quiet line?

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Postby wdeturck » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:49 am

complete engine for a 1650
Part ID: KH-PA-71221
Description ENGINE ASM-K341AQS
Qty:
Unit Price
2,193.42
A short block
Part ID: KH-45-522-41
Description SHORT BLOCK
Qty:
Unit Price
1,252.36
These prices came from the C&G Cub dealer in WI. Cub Cadet has a part site similar to C&G and you might still be able to order direct from Cub Cadet. I don't use that site for prices as if the part is NLA it won't show up in the shopping cart and C&G still has parts listed with prices that Cub Cadet doesn't.
What I meant on the other post that a used Kohler engine is worth more than he paid for the 1450.
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Postby Snotzalot » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:25 am

Yeah yeah Geezer I know what you meant! :D I was wanting to know if I did good for my 1650 @ $400.

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Postby wdeturck » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:59 am

Snotzalot: I think you answered you own question :oops:
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Postby klejeune » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:00 am

I bought new isomounts from my Cub dealer for about $14 each this summer... still haven't put them in yet though. Once I get done with my CCO rebuild and mount the loader, I'll start tearing down my 1450 to do the engine cradle upgrade and install the new isomounts. And I have a new fan to replace the busted up one on the driveshaft.

I say, nice find on your 1450. First thing I'd do is change the Hytran and filter and engine oil.

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Postby jostev » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:21 pm

thanks Paul for the engine model

yup keith, I will do that eventually, i KNOW that this has been better maintained than i would ever do in my lifetime because the guy who had it at maintained everything they had great, i checked the engine oil today, and it was cleaner than new stuff :lol: hopefully one of these days ifn it stops raining/snowing i can get a few CC's inside to get some winter work done 8)

another question, i went outside today to look at it for a minunte, and the hydro lever doesnt' move :?: :roll: what could/does this mean? it could just be wired or somthin siezed up in the linkage, as i said it's been raining since last night, so i haven' thad a chance to get it inside yet, just wondering ifn anybody knows what this could be?

Thanks a bucnh

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Postby BigBill » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:33 pm

My neighbor has a cadet with 14hp with a front loader and its awesome.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Postby gitractorman » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:59 pm

Watch out fooling around with the hydro lever, they break off. :shock: Good chance that the linkage is rusted up or siezed. Take the tunnle cover off and spray everything down with Kroil and let it soak a while. Also, with that cover off, look up under the dash, as I think there is another coupling up in there.
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