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Postby DanR » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:22 am

I know very little about the Cadets. There is a 76 model unknown for sale for $850. New tires, battery, wiring, 42" mower Kohler iron engine. Is this a good price?
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Re: Price

Postby ToddW » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:52 pm

the 76 model is 7hp so not the biggest of the kohler engines by far. The even the 10 HP, 12, 14 or 16 hp engines have noticeable grunt compared to it

depending on condition, the price seems high to me. good running 76's with a mower deck are about 500 or less by me
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Re: Price

Postby Barnyard » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:00 pm

DanR wrote:There is a 76 model unknown for sale for $850.

Dan, is this a 1976 and the model is unknown or is it a model 76 and the year is unknow?
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Re: Price

Postby DanR » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:02 pm

Thanks Todd. The guy says it has the 14hp Kohler and a new clutch.
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Re: Price

Postby ToddW » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:22 pm

Hi Dan

I believe the only cadet garden tractors with 14hp kohlers were the models 147 and model 149

those numbers should be on the hood

both had hydrostatic transmitions

If you could post a pic of it, I'm curiuos to see what he's selling!
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Re: Price

Postby DanR » Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:19 pm

See your PM
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Re: Price

Postby voltage regulator » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:14 pm

Hi Dan! Well, Cadets refer to a IH Cadet Lawn tractors. Big difference between the Cadets and Cub Cadets. You are most likely looking at a IH Cub Cadet 1450. That too has the 14 hp. Kohler motor. This model is a hydro-drive, known as a wide frame Quite Line Garden Tractor. Very good machines!
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Re: Price

Postby gitractorman » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:13 pm

Yes, if it's a 1976 tractor, and 14-hp, then it must be a 1450, 14-hp hydrostatic drive. Very nice machine! However, there is no drive clutch because it is a hydrostatic drive. There is an electric PTO clutch, so that may be the part that was replaced, and it is an expensive one too.

If it's in good running condition, all the parts are there, and the mower is in good shape, $850 is a good price. It's even a good price if it's running good but needs some cosmetic work. If it's a rust bucket and/or smoking or knocking, it's more in the line of $450 to $500.
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Re: Price

Postby DanR » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:32 am

My mistake it's 12 hp.
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Re: Price

Postby gitractorman » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Ok, well then you have two options. If it's a hydro, then it's a model 1250, and everything that was said above for the 1450 is the same, except for it being 12hp instead of 14hp.

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However, they did make a 12hp gear drive model, model 1200, pictured above. Looks exactly like a 1250 except that it is not a hydro, and has a 3-speed gear drive with the shifter between the seat. This one will have manual lift for the mower deck/implements. It could possibly have a creeper drive too (big Bonus if it does). The creeper drive will be a small lever down on the transmission tunnel, that just goes forward or back. This is like a transfer case on a 4x4 truck, giving you High and Low range for the transmission, and gives you 3 lower gears than the standard 1st gear, along with a lower gear for reverse. This is and absolute MUST HAVE for using a snow blower or roto tiller with a gear drive tractor.

One of the biggest problems with the gear drive "quietline tractors - as this series is know by" is that the ISO motor mounts wear out, typically tearing the clutch out. If the clutch was recently replaced (as you indicated) then they should have replaced the motor mounts. If they didn't, then it will just tear out another clutch. The motor mounts are not a big deal, you just disconnect the drive shaft (lock the clutch pedal down first) unbolt the motor, and lift it up slightly. If you have an engine hoist or chain fall of some kind, you can do this without disconnecting everything else on the tractor, and just lift and hold it in place. Then you unbolt the motor mounts and install new mounts, then re-install everything.

The last two 1200 tractors that I've had I sold for $650, including the one above. Both were in similar condition. Good runners, good mower decks, very original but good condition paint.


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Re: Price

Postby DanR » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:51 am

Thanks for every ones help. I think this is a good deal but I'm going to pass. I already have a 54" mower, a butt buggy, and 5 Farmalls. Besides my wife would kill me.
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Re: Price

Postby Denny Clayton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:05 am

DanR wrote:Thanks for every ones help. I think this is a good deal but I'm going to pass. I already have a 54" mower, a butt buggy, and 5 Farmalls. Besides my wife would kill me.

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Re: Price

Postby BigBill » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:47 pm

Food for thought;
My little cub cadet 70 with the new 8. Horse power Kohler replacement engine it came with pulls my trailer up hill with 1/3 of a cord of firewood in it with my 380lb body too on the tractor. That little engine doesn't even miss a beat too.
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Re: Price

Postby 4SPEED » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:46 am

that QL body is the same for the 800-----1650

and a good way to tell if its a 3 speed is the model # is a even # hydros have a odd #
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Re: Price

Postby gitractorman » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:46 am

Actually, both 1200 and 1250 are "even" numbers, divisible by 2 mathematically. The identifier is either xx00 or xx50, xx00 for gear drive, and xx50 for hydro drive.

The gear drives are 800, 1000 and 1200, for 8hp, 10hp, and 12hp. The hydro drive numbers are 1250, 1450, and 1650, for 12hp, 14hp, and 16hp. There was also a model 1100, which did not have side panels on the engine, had a Briggs & Stratton 11hp engine, and were belt drive with a Pierless, gear drive transmission. All of these tractors used the exact same frame, wheels, tires, mower decks, etc., so they were all nearly identical cosmetically other than the identifying model number.
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