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Farmall M, Super M, 400, 450 & 560 Tractors, 1939-1963

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Re: Farmall M

Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:06 am

Bigdog
Don't faint when you find out how much lube the drive train holds!

He is right , you may want to but the gearlub in intervals before you change out , 13 gal @around $50 - 5 gal tsc
But I will tell you they are powerful machines, I would venture to say if I did not like the buzz saw on our cub so well , I would sell all our tractors and just keep the M
Phil

Re: Farmall M

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:33 pm

Nice M!! They are really fun to take for a ride down the road. Also your M should have no problem puling a 2 bottom plow. Mine pulls one like its not even there.

Re: Farmall M

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:11 am

Well, I really stepped in it. I bought used tires on rims and was going to have them taken off and put on my rims. The tread looked about 85% and only had a tiny bit of cracking. I took everything to my tire place and they said they would be ready on Monday. They called me yesterday and said everything was junk except one or the newer tires.

I went over there and they were right. Both of my rims were pretty much rusted through and one of the newer tires cracked almost completely through on the sidewall when they broke the bead.

To make a long story short, I am now into this thing to the tune of two new rims and two new tires. They are throwing in labor since they felt sorry for me.

Wow, these things can add up fast.

Here is my question - should I go back to the guy I bought the tires from and just tell him what happened? Maybe he will have pity on me and throw back a few bucks. I am not expecting my money back, but I really don't like being out this money for nothing.

Right now, I think I might just chalk this up to a learning experience (an expensive one) and move on. What do you think?

Re: Farmall M

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:43 am

Matt,

Unless the seller represented them as something different than “what you see is what you get”, I think you have learned an expensive lesson. If you know the guy he may take pity on you and return some, but it is likely he wouldn’t have known about it anymore than you did (or even the tire place when you dropped them off). Just my thoughts….

I don’t have much experience with reusing older tires but what little I have had, has not been good. Tires don’t hold up well to being removed then the rims if they have been there for years are usually worse shape than you expect/hope.

On a much (much, much) smaller scale, I have a CC Original with two great looking agg tires on them, just older. I had the idea I would remove the tires, clean and paint the rims, use some Miller tire paint on the tires, reassemble and would be good as new… wrong, tires were brittle, would have likely lasted much longer had I not messed with them.

Sorry about your surprise and best of luck,

Re: Farmall M

Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:02 am

Matt,

I hate that for ya', I really do. I'd say you're gonna have to chalk that one up to experience.

Re: Farmall M

Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:06 am

Matt getting the wife in on the Big M deal is a great idea. I know a Massey guy who puts ID.tags on all of his show tractors. Each tag has the make, model, year of tractor and his and her names on them. They are bolted to the tractor and are informative to the public when on show.

Re: Farmall M

Fri May 11, 2012 1:33 am

Big Mat are those weights on the back of your Cadet just the same as front weights off of a Farmall Cub. Do you kow what a complete set of weights from a Farmall Cub are going for? Red

Re: Farmall M

Fri May 11, 2012 5:49 am

I don't have a cadet, but I do know that rear weights from some Cadets are the same as the front weights on a Cub.

For a price on weights, you can get rears for $80-100 and fronts for around $110-120. Sometimes you can find a deal, but that is a pretty good rule of thumb.

Re: Farmall M

Fri May 11, 2012 6:00 am

I haave plowed many acres with a 51 M pulling a 3 - 14 plow. All kinds of soil except muck which would be no problem. I believe an M came with 11 inch tires but dad orderded his with 12 inch, they were an inch larger anyway. Most plowing was done in 3rd. A couple years later dad would plow with the M and I with the H with 2-14. The M not only pulled a larger plow but also faster. If you don't have a lot of plowing to do and get a good deal on a 2 bottom 14 or a 2 bottom 16 inch consider it and just plow faster. Vern

Re: Farmall M

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:02 pm

Actually the rear holds 13 gal. water seaps in around the gear shifter. they are great machines lots of power
Nice find in that shape.
Phil

Re: Farmall M

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:58 am

Did you ever bother to run the year of the tractor using the serial number? M's were last built in 51. Vern

Re: Farmall M

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Actually a few were built in '52, with Super M rear ends so they have the faster gearing and factory disk brakes.
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