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Some people and tools do not mix.

Farmall H, HV & Super H, 300 & 350, 1939-1958
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Rodney51Cub
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Zip Code: 62995
Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall Cub
1950 John Deere A
1949 Farmall Cub
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Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Southern Illinois

Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Rodney51Cub » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:49 pm

Hauled a 41 H home last Thursday to fix for a guy that lives about 15 miles from here. He said the tractor had not run in almost 2 years. Said all it needed was the carb rebuilt. Did not say if he worked on it or had it worked on. Some questions I do not need to know the answer to. Well I jumped in with both feet because I like fixing stuff. Like most of the projects I take on, it needs a lot more than what I am told is wrong with it. The good news, the motor is not stuck and the gas tank is very clean inside. The bad news, wiring is a mess and the carb float will have to be replaced. The float is bent and pushed in on both sides. Do not know what the float did to get that kind of treatment but I will order a new one tomorrow. I have purchased new 2/O battery cables and will end up replacing all the wiring. Sometimes it is easier that way. It is a 6 volt system with a Delco distributor. Cut out was replaced with voltage regulator at some point. Hope to have it done in a couple of weeks and get back to working on my JD A.
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Eugene
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Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Eugene » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:28 pm

Sometimes these situations make for great bargains. Purchased a Bobcat skid steer that ran like crap when you could get it to run. Turned out someone had rebuilt the carburetor and had install the carburetor bowl to top gasket upside down.

Also purchase a tractor that was apparently a 4H or school shop project that didn't run right. Only took a couple of minor fixes to correct the problems.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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John *.?-!.* cub owner
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Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:58 pm

I have seen floats like that before, it comes from a good bit of water getting into carb. and then freezing. The carburetor on an H is cast iron, but the float is very thin copper. Guess which one gives way when the ice expands.
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Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Eugene » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:30 pm

Eugene wrote:Sometimes these situations make for great bargains. Purchased a Bobcat skid steer that ran like crap when you could get it to run. Turned out someone had rebuilt the carburetor and had install the carburetor bowl to top gasket upside down.

Also purchase a tractor that was apparently a 4H or school shop project that didn't run right. Only took a couple of minor fixes to correct the problems.
Edit. Once bought a Case SC from my boss in middle of winter because it wouldn't start. Pulled the carburetor, set on basement floor (coldest part of house) for two days to slowly thaw out. Carburetor was full of water. Cleaned carburetor. Installed, tractor started up. Drove tractor home - froze my fanny. Sold the tractor couple days later for $150 more than I paid for it. Boss was really PO''d when he found out what I got for the tractor. But then, I wasn't his mechanic and he never asked me for advice, just wanted rid of the tractor. Wife gladly accepted the check for the tractor - which I never saw one cent.

Back then $150- was a lot of money.
I have an excuse. CRS.

Rodney51Cub
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:06 pm
Zip Code: 62995
Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall Cub
1950 John Deere A
1949 Farmall Cub
1943 Farmall H
1940 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M
1962 Massey Ferguson 65
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Southern Illinois

Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Rodney51Cub » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:55 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:I have seen floats like that before, it comes from a good bit of water getting into carb. and then freezing. The carburetor on an H is cast iron, but the float is very thin copper. Guess which one gives way when the ice expands.


Thanks for the info, did not think of that much water in the carb.

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Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:34 pm

I did not either until I saw it. an Uncle called me to help him get his h going that had set outside all winter. He said it was flooding. I pulled the plug out and drained quite a bit of water out, but still flooding. When i took the carb apart to clean it i found the float smashed on on both sides and split. I knew he hadn't taken it apart, so the only remaining explanation was the water (formerly ice) i drained out of it.
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Rodney51Cub
10+ Years
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Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:06 pm
Zip Code: 62995
Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall Cub
1950 John Deere A
1949 Farmall Cub
1943 Farmall H
1940 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M
1962 Massey Ferguson 65
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Southern Illinois

Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Rodney51Cub » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:17 pm

:help: Another question on this H. It is a 6 volt system. It has a 12 volt coil that requires an external resistor by the lettering on the coil. Can I use this coil without the resistor in the 6 volt system. From reading previous posts on coils and resistors I think I can, but I could use a second and third opinion.
I have been messing with to many electrical problems at work and I have to take a break from it or I may short circuit. :lol:

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Rodney51Cub
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 523
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:06 pm
Zip Code: 62995
Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall Cub
1950 John Deere A
1949 Farmall Cub
1943 Farmall H
1940 Farmall H
1953 Farmall Super M
1962 Massey Ferguson 65
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Southern Illinois

Re: Some people and tools do not mix.

Postby Rodney51Cub » Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:41 pm

The H project is done and back to its very happy owner. After replacing all wiring, carb float, pto seal, lower trans seal, trans fluid, two engine oil changes and other minor parts, it runs good and does not leak.
Now back to the JDA project. :{_}: :{_}: :{_}:
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