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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:56 pm

Barnyard -

Go to the link in my signature block. I have a Google map of buildings as they look now, and a handful of photos as they looked back in the day.

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Barnyard wrote:What did the prototype buildings look like?
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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:03 pm

Bill -

Do remember how far out of town it was?

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:07 pm

Here is one more. I don't know the name of the dealer. Last time I looked at this one, it was in pretty rough shape and the pylon was still in place. Looking at the building now, I'm not sure is is the original building but it looks like it may be.
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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Bill Hudson » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:10 pm

Matt,

I would say less than 5 miles. It was on the southwest corner of the intersection. Hope this helps.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Barnyard » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 pm

This was Harrison Farm Equipment, which was the IH dealer owned by my uncle Art from the 40's to the mid to late 70's. It is located at 1144 Harrison Ave, Harrison Ohio. It is now divided into three different stores. I could get a better pic of it next time I am in town.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Super A » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:22 pm

There are several prototype buildings around my area of eastern NC that I will try to get addresses for. Off the top of my head, these two are still caseIH dealers.
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Mills International, Kinston NC
Lilley International, Williamston NC (they have several stores but Williamston I think is the only prototype building they use, I think)

I will try to get you some more.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:43 pm

Well... The building is about the right size but sure lacks any of the architectural traits of a prototype building.

The dealer in town was Crim Truck and Tractor. They were in business from 1943 to sometime in the 90's, until they got into a pissing match of a lawsuit with Navistar.


Jim Becker wrote:Here is one more. I don't know the name of the dealer. Last time I looked at this one, it was in pretty rough shape and the pylon was still in place. Looking at the building now, I'm not sure is is the original building but it looks like it may be.
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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:44 am

Thanks Al. Send them along as you find 'em!

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Mills International, Kinston NC
Lilley International, Williamston NC (they have several stores but Williamston I think is the only prototype building they use, I think)

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Bill Hudson » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:27 am

Bill Hudson wrote:There is one west of Fremont, OH on US 20. Was a working dealership until I left the area in 1999. Maybe Bill Darr can shed some light on that one.

Bill


Matt,

After a little more research, I believe the intersection to be Four Mile House Road and US RT 20 and the address: 3451 West State Street, Fremont, OH.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:46 pm

If you google Crim and International Harvester, you can find some documents relating to a suit. I agree that the current building on that site looks newer/different from a prototype building, but it still carries some resemblence. Maybe somebody liked the layout and borrowed from the design.

I know you are asking about prototype buldings. However, there are a lot of older dealer buildings still out there too. Some are in use, others not. Sherley Brothers in Anna TX is interesting. At 33.349284,-96.548271 it is a good one to take a look at. Put that location into google maps and do a street view, and Bing and look at birdseye view. Harvester cancelled them in 1946.

There are some branch office buildings still standing too. The one in Peoria at 1301-1309 Southwest Washington Street has been designated as a historic building. Here is more than you want to read about it, including a lot of detail on the original interior:
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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:56 pm

Thanks Bill. That was the building I came up with as the likely suspect. Do you recall the dealer's name?

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After a little more research, I believe the intersection to be Four Mile House Road and US RT 20 and the address: 3451 West State Street, Fremont, OH.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:07 pm

Very good information!

Here is my "local" branch house in Portland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IH_Warehouse_-_Portland_Oregon.jpg

According to Harvester World (1911), it was designed and built by its owners and then leased to IH. The branch buildings in Mankato, Charlotte, and Terre Haute were built and leased in the same manner.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby Jason (IL) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:30 pm

My grandpa had an IH Dealership in ODELL IL on the corner of hamilton and front street acroos from the fire house. I will try and take a few pics of it the next time I'm in Odell. He operated his dealership under the name R.M. Mackinson. He bought the old dealership in 1946 when he got home from the war and sold IH Farmall till 1961. Then it became know as Mackinson Implement and Hardware I believe. I will ask my uncle. We sold the old store contents at auction in Dec 1992. I was 11 then and remember the day as if it was yesterday but wish I could have saved a lot of the stuff. I am in the process of trying to get some stuff we left inside out that is still there. Like the original parts counter that is still in place. I want it for my basement bar.

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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby spadra » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:42 pm

Thanks Jason! Let me know what you find out and if you can, try to find the street address. :D :D

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Jason (IL) wrote:My grandpa had an IH Dealership in ODELL IL on the corner of hamilton and front street acroos from the fire house. I will try and take a few pics of it the next time I'm in Odell. He operated his dealership under the name R.M. Mackinson. He bought the old dealership in 1946 when he got home from the war and sold IH Farmall till 1961. Then it became know as Mackinson Implement and Hardware I believe. I will ask my uncle.
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Re: Frank Bartlow Prototype Building

Postby gitractorman » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:34 am

Ok, I know these are not part of the Bartlow Prototype buildings, but they are still pretty cool. This is my family's dealership in Middletown, Ohio. The first picture is of the original building on Main Street, in the same location where the Jug is now (locals will get it). That picture must have been taken right around 1947/1948, look close in the lower right.
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The next two pics are of the second location at 2981 Cincinnati-Dayton Road (corner of Oxford State Rd.). This building is still standing, my grandfather sold it after dad built the new shop on Greentree Rd. The first picture is really cool, it is from around 1971, and has my grandfather on the far left, and his brother to the right, then my grandfather's two trucks that he restored, a 1927 IH milk truck, and a 1907 IH High Wheel Buggy. The milk truck was bought by a Wrecker Museum, in Georgia (I think) and is on display there, now with a wrecker body.
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This next picture was around 2001 to 2003, before we moved.
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Supposedly, the newer building was an IH design for truck dealers, and I know that the big white steel sign post is from IH. It is hard to tell, but this building is pretty big. It was 12 garage bays deep, with doors down each side, and we could pull a full semi tractor/trailer inside and work on it all at once. Once we stopped truck repair service in the late 1990s, it was just way too big, and was eventually one of the reasons we sold and moved to a new place.
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