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Moving Day

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:09 am
by Rudi
I don't post in this forum much, cause I really don't have much aside from my Cubs.. but, seems the Cub House has inherited for the time being some added visitors.

Gord had to move his collection of tractors and implements from the Barn he used to own.. and Jan 14th became the day to Move em on Out! :big smile:

It was a day my brother-in-law had available, and Gord prefers to work with Ray on this stuff.. so away we went. A lot of the pics are on the CubFest Photo Host under Moving Day, but here are a few to whet your whistle.. :lol: :!:

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This is my preferred way of loading Tractors on a Trailer. Everything else requires more work. Not that I dislike hard work, but I will take the easy way when I can get it :big smile:

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3500+ lbs of Super H :!:

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Almost done for the first trip. Just adding small stuff and odds and sods to the rest of the load.

Oh, btw.. the truck and trailer take up 75 feet and Ray backed it in to the Barn.. oh about 250 feet from the road through an 8 foot farm fence gate off of a road 22 feet wide roughly from ditch to ditch. He had to take two shots at it.. the second one he had to pull ahead about 18 inches to get the trailer to bypass the fence post. Awesome driving. You should have seen him coming out. There is next to no room on either side of the gate, the ditch is right there...

Gord and I enjoyed ourselves, it was a nice day even with the snow coming down pretty hard. It took almost 2 hours to load and a little over an hour to unload. Unloading though was in the dark and in a heavy snow storm. You can see the amount of snow we got.. in this pic.. the pad had been cleared of snow by a backhoe with a front bucket.. hours before we came home with the tractors.

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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:50 pm
by red56turbo
Rudi,

Neat pics!!!!!! First time I've seen tractors loaded that way. I have a phobia of driving the big tractors on trailers. Guess I'm nervous of tipping off the trailer! Always have my brother do it. Wish we could get alot of snow like that. Here in Iowa, we may get 4-5, then it melts in 3 days. Would be neat to get snowed in once.

Red56

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:40 pm
by Bigdog
There is a local green guy who loads like that. I sold him a JD A several years ago and he came with his truck, took a single strap around the tractor, centered it where he wanted it and lifted the tractor onto the truck with it just balanced in the sling. There was absolutely nothing keeping the tractor in the sling other than perfect balance. I made a mental note never to let this guy haul anything of mine.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:53 pm
by cubguy
Bigdog wrote:There is a local green guy who loads like that. I sold him a JD A several years ago and he came with his truck, took a single strap around the tractor, centered it where he wanted it and lifted the tractor onto the truck with it just balanced in the sling. There was absolutely nothing keeping the tractor in the sling other than perfect balance. I made a mental note never to let this guy haul anything of mine.

:shock: WOW, that would be a site.

Thats a nice group of tractors.
Kyle

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:36 pm
by KETCHAM
Man those are some nice tractors!!!A super A and H WOW!!!Wish I had!!!Nice snow,send me some also.In the mid 40s or 6 your scale.Thats warm for this time of year.Hope ya doing fine. Kevin :D :D

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:44 pm
by Rudi
Actually, there is a huge difference between how that local guy loads with a sling and how Ray loads with slings :!:

As a contractor, he is by law required to observe ALL Rules, Regulations and Safe Operating Practices for Lifting any load. I can guarantee it just isn't wrapped with one sling.

Yes it it balanced within safe operating limits as well as operating distances. It must be otherwise you could topple the Crane even with a small load it the reach and balance is beyond safe limits. And that would be a $500.000.00 boo-boo with his 30 ton and a $250.000.00 boo-boo with this one a 22 ton crane. If you look closely at the pic of the trailing plow you will see that the two slings actually are wrapped and slipped through themselves to form a proper choker grip and it is much stronger than chains. He does know what he is doing otherwise he would not have a Crane Operator/Owner's License... or be allowed to Operate a Crane Business.

Also I know how it was slung as I was the one actually doing the slinging. Ray and I have worked with his cranes and slinging loads for almost 10 years.. :D

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If all of this was done for a 500lb or so plow.. how careful do you think we were with a 3500 lb tractor :?: Check it out : There are 4 slings 2 wrapped through the rear tires and 2 wrapped around the front axle tubes. With these slings, that tractor ain't going nowhere but where we want it to go.

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Safety is Job #1

I too would rather load a tractor this way than drive it up a ramp onto a trailer. I don't much like it. If I gotta drive em on, I prefer a level deck to work from...... :roll: :wink: :D

We are all fine.. we got a foot of snow today.. and now we are into a Freezing Rain Warning... :big smile:

Pics a bit later.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:00 pm
by cowboy
Rudi where is your tag line :?: Actually a crane is something I refuse to operate. I can read a load chart but I feel operating a crane is a art. The reason I mention tag lines is I do all my lifting with a excavator and I have seen what happens when a main boom line blows :shock:

Defiantly a UP Lifting experience there


Billy

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:20 pm
by VinceD
Rudi, those are great pictures :!: :!:

Now I've heard the old expression, "When pigs fly," but this is ridiculous :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:48 pm
by Rudi
Billy:

Ray uses tag lines for trusses and other large unweildy loads.. this was a fun day.. so we took our time and simply had some fun.. Also he uses load limiter blocks.. and that keeps things in check.

You know what it is like to run equipment.. when you gots the touch, you feel it. He has it.. in spades. Very smooth.

Vince:

:big smile:

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:24 am
by Pony Master
Do you realize the trouble I could get myself into with that thing :twisted: :twisted: NOTHING would be safe if I had one of those. I know some friends who would be trying to figure out how to get a Saturn off of the roof of their garage right now.

Just thinking :twisted: Does he rent that thing out :wink:

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:49 am
by beaconlight
Pony Master reminds me of things we did in the early 50's. While working nights, all of us went out, That is all but one of us. Guess whose Austin was lifted on to the loading dock of the Peanut warehouse across the street. Another night the same car got lifted on to the loading dock of the tel Co building, on to the big freight elevator and up to the hall of the floor the owner worked on. Yep lifting can cause problems if not controlled.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:55 pm
by Pony Master
Yeah, I sort of owe this guy. After my front door was duct taped shut and then my entire house was strech wrapped, he has it coming. He has been my best friend since high school, but I he has it coming. Now that he and his wife have returned to the area LET THE GAMES BEGIN.

A few of my pranks have landed on the back page of the local paper. :shock: But when I tell them it was me, they don't care any more.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:26 pm
by Kodiak
Rudi,
Rigging is a art as well crane operation. I have worked with some of the best over the 28+ years of antenna construction. The best was a guy in Hawaii, He operated a 150 ton friction crane like it was hydralic, truly amazing.
Rigging is about as important as the crane operator, the rigger can make you work hard all day or he can make your life easy so be nice to both :D
Those nylon slings are the only way to go and the endless nylon are even better they conform to the load. I still have a few of both in the shop now.
Looks like you guys had a very smooth operation going on there :!:

Ron

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:18 pm
by Rudi
Ron:

Thanks for the kind words, they are appreciated. Ray is pretty good, a real natural. You cannot even see the loads swing.. they just roll through the sky to where they have to be, effortless and as if they were under their own power... smooth as silk.

I like doing the riggin part.. it s a lot of fun. Funny, you should use the antenna analogy though.. I always felt that what I was doing for Ray was very similar to all the stuff I did up in the Arctic rigging lifts for ham antennas.. not a pro.. just a amateur.. :lol: .. but it was fun learning how to properly rig a tower section that needed to go up 150 or 200 feet with a gin pole..

Whenever I do work with Ray on the trucks, it is always a good and enjoyable day.. sure shows how teamwork pays off :!: :idea: :wink: :D