This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

I have a problem

Farmall C, Super C Tractors, 200 & 230 1948-1958
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:34 pm

So I think I have a problem
Attachments
E7A02235-173F-429E-BFE4-621C1F5613A7.jpeg
06E91F95-7002-4F27-845A-AE2A6B65F06C.jpeg

User avatar
ricky racer
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6339
Joined: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:40 pm
Zip Code: 49120
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Niles / Buchanan, Michigan

Re: I have a problem

Postby ricky racer » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:00 pm

Can you stone it off in the area where the gasket failed to determine if there is a flaw in the head or block show any erosion? Also check it for flatness with a straight edge like a level?
1929 Farmall Regular
1935 John Deere B
1937 John Deere A
1941 John Deere H
1952 John Deere B
1953 Farmall Cub

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:19 pm

I plan on stoning that area , I'm hoping the head and block are still true and flat. It only ran maybe 5 min after it happened . I was plowing when this happened.

tst
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5218
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby tst » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:13 pm

has that been a recent rebuild, looks kind of clean ? does not look like the head gasket was copper sprayed ? check the head for warpage

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:31 pm

You have a good eye. It has been done some time ago by the previous owner , we have all of the bills for it. But the tractor was used very little. It was done at least ten years ago. The crosshatching is still in the cylinders. I’ve redone the governor on it. The little expensive bearing was gone , like it never was put in.

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:02 pm

After closer inspection I noticed the thermostat was just rattling around in the cast. So that needed some attention . It never made on the temp gauge to the run it always stayed in cold. That thermostat setup was very unique I have never seen anything like that before

tst
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5218
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby tst » Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:17 pm

the old factory thermostat was kinda funky looking, not like modern ones

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:34 am

Added a new temp gauge
Attachments
IMG_4902.jpg

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:39 am

Going together
Attachments
IMG_4900.jpg
Head cleaned up nicely
IMG_4899.jpg

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:43 pm

Well I'm going to have to revisit the thermostat, it runs as it should the temp was coming up so I throttled up some more and it went down to cold again. So I'm sure the thermostat blew out of its intended location . I may need a new retainer. :roll:

outdoors4evr
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 2791
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:44 pm
Zip Code: 48370
Tractors Owned: 184
Location: Oxford, MI

Re: I have a problem

Postby outdoors4evr » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:25 am

Umm... There shouldn't be any pressure in the water jacket. The throttle should have little effect on the thermostat housing. (other than vibration)
Might want to look in the radiator for bubbles while it is running.
184 w/ Creeper & 3-Point
IH 3160a Mower
IH Model 15 Tiller
IH-54 Blade

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17279
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: I have a problem

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:19 am

Increased speed of the water pump would add some pressure against the thermostat. It could be enough to push it out of place if it wasn't well anchored.

tst
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 5218
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Zip Code: 12514
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby tst » Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:49 pm

did you use the copper spray on the head gasket and check the head for warpage ?

Magnum
Cub Star!!
Cub Star!!
Posts: 255
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Zip Code: Nope
Circle of Safety: Y

Re: I have a problem

Postby Magnum » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:33 pm

I used a straight edge to check for warpage , I saw nothing concerning . No other material applied to the gasket before reassembly. As for the thermostat, when I put it back together I had no confidence it would last , I took that gamble and lost . I figured it was an easy fix if it failed again . So we might as well order some new parts for it. There are no bubbles in the rad either when it's running. It does run really well.


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall C, Super C, 200 & 230”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests