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Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Make a hole in it and pry or yank it out. If they really need replacing, rust has thinned them down to where you can jam a screwdriver in and pop them out. I suppose worst case is one so solid you need to drill a hole in the center and pop it out with a slide hammer. When you get the old one out, clean all the crud out of the block that you can get at.
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Got the tractor split today.
Question, how do I remove the throw out bearing ?
Looks like I have to remove the linkage?
Question, how do I remove the throw out bearing ?
Looks like I have to remove the linkage?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
I guess what I should be asking is how to remove the bearing carrier
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- Team Cub
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
I haven't touched one in a long time. I don't think there are any hidden secrets to getting it apart. It has to be something similar to either:
1) Something keeps the carrier from turning. Undo it and give the carrier 1/4 turn to pull it off.
OR
2) You have to unpin the release yoke from the rest of the linkage. Pull the yoke and carrier off together.
1) Something keeps the carrier from turning. Undo it and give the carrier 1/4 turn to pull it off.
OR
2) You have to unpin the release yoke from the rest of the linkage. Pull the yoke and carrier off together.
- Dale Finch
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
There should be a description in the Service Manual, but this might help from the Parts Manual. Note there are 2 different style clutch linkages.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%206%20(08-79)/Group%20-%2007%20-%20Drive%20Train/Page-03.jpg
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%206%20(08-79)/Group%20-%2007%20-%20Drive%20Train/Page-03.jpg
- Dale Finch
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'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
And doing a very quick search, this is from the GSS-1411 Service Manual - Engine Clutch section.
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Blue%20Ribbon%20Service%20Manuals/GSS-1411%20Service%20Manual%20for%20Cubs%20and%20Lo-boy%20Tractors/Section%205%20-%20Engine%20Clutch/Section%205%20-%20Engine%20Clutch.htm
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Blue%20Ribbon%20Service%20Manuals/GSS-1411%20Service%20Manual%20for%20Cubs%20and%20Lo-boy%20Tractors/Section%205%20-%20Engine%20Clutch/Section%205%20-%20Engine%20Clutch.htm
- Dale Finch
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'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Oops! It pays to go back to the beginning and review the post before starting to type!!!
It was politely pointed out that the tractor under discussion was a Super C, not a Cub! Sorry about that.
It was politely pointed out that the tractor under discussion was a Super C, not a Cub! Sorry about that.
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Got the tractor split and figured out how to get the throw out bearing removed and installed a new one.
Flywheel is at the machine shop for resurface.
Got the old freeze plug out and have a new brass plug. What are you guys using for a sealant around freeze plugs ?
Flywheel is at the machine shop for resurface.
Got the old freeze plug out and have a new brass plug. What are you guys using for a sealant around freeze plugs ?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Got the flywheel back from the machine shop.
Torque for flywheel to crank 41 ft lbs . Is that right ?
Torque for flywheel to crank 41 ft lbs . Is that right ?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Getting everything put back together but ran into a problem.
I’m trying to get the tractor back together but it stops about an inch before the two halves come together.
I used the clutch alignment tool and the shaft goes into the clutch but stops. Things seemed lined up pretty good.
I’m thinking it’s not going into the pilot bushing. At a closer look the top of the bell housing is closer than bottom when looking at the engine. But not buy much at all.
Any tips on getting it back together?
I’m trying to get the tractor back together but it stops about an inch before the two halves come together.
I used the clutch alignment tool and the shaft goes into the clutch but stops. Things seemed lined up pretty good.
I’m thinking it’s not going into the pilot bushing. At a closer look the top of the bell housing is closer than bottom when looking at the engine. But not buy much at all.
Any tips on getting it back together?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Try to get the gap at the top and bottom lined up perfect. Put the transmission in neutral, engage the pto and turn the pto shaft a little with a pipe wrench or any tool you can get on it. The splines may not be lined up right on the shaft and clutch disc.
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Got everything back together with new clutch, throw out bearing, throw out bearing carrier and the new ring gear worked great but when I tried to put it in gear it would just grind.
After adjusting clutch pedal free play to 1 7/16 inch same thing happened.
After adjusting the pedal to about 1” of free play I am able to get the tractor in gear but still grinds some.
Not really sure what’s going on.
Any tips or advice from anyone that’s gone through this ?
After adjusting clutch pedal free play to 1 7/16 inch same thing happened.
After adjusting the pedal to about 1” of free play I am able to get the tractor in gear but still grinds some.
Not really sure what’s going on.
Any tips or advice from anyone that’s gone through this ?
- Slim140
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Did you replace the pilot shaft bushing? If so it could be tight and not letting the shaft stop turning.
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
Yes I replaced the pilot bushing with a new one one that came with the clutch.
Do new ones normally fit tight? if so do new ones ever need to be fitted ?
How would you make sure it’s not to tight
Do new ones normally fit tight? if so do new ones ever need to be fitted ?
How would you make sure it’s not to tight
- Slim140
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1972 International 140
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1965 John Deere 110
1961 Cub Cadet Original - Circle of Safety: Y
Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement
A lot of times when new pilot bushings are installed they need to be reamed to size because they get tighter after installation. You May can push the clutch pedal down and leave the tractor in gear for a little bit while running and it may wear in if your lucky.
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
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