Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

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Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Eric85 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:36 pm

Getting ready to split my super c and replace the worn ring gear.
I figured i would replace the clutch as well.
When looking at replacement clutches I see there are two options.
one with a spring disk and one with a solid disk, no springs
what is the difference ?

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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Shane N. » Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:15 am

The springs help absorb some of the shock.
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Eric85 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:51 pm

Thanks
What about the throw out bearing.
I’m assuming I have the original graphite bearing.
Should I replace it with new what else will I need.
I see there is a throw out bearing carrier and clutch throw out bearing
Do I need both ?
I also see there is new clutches with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?

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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby outdoors4evr » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:48 am

I like the theory of "replace it while I am here" but I think there is a new challenge where the new parts aren't always as good (durable) as the originals. I'd plan on replacing the throwout bearing (graphite piece) and get it soaking in oil and cheap grease as soon as possible.
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Shane N. » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:22 am

Eric85 wrote:Thanks
What about the throw out bearing.
I’m assuming I have the original graphite bearing.
Should I replace it with new what else will I need.
I see there is a throw out bearing carrier and clutch throw out bearing
Do I need both ?
I also see there is new clutches with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?

Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing (as far as I know a Cub is the only tractor that uses a graphite bearing), it should be a roller type bearing. If you buy a kit it should come with a clutch disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing, and pilot bushing.

I wouldn't think you would need the carrier, you won't know until you take it apart.
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:39 pm

Shane N. wrote:. . . Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing . . .

Actually they did, probably most of them.

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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Shane N. » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:43 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Shane N. wrote:. . . Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing . . .

Actually they did, probably most of them.

Really? I looked up a replacement and it had no mention of graphite. That is my mistake!
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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:48 pm

I don't know what is available now. But the parts catalog lists both styles with a ball bearing listed for Hydra-Creeper equipped tractors. The bearing carrier was specific to each style bearing.

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Re: Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

Postby Eric85 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:45 pm

also see there are two clutches available one with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?
It looks like what is there now are the wide levers.


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