Ring Gear and Clutch replacement

[Eric85]

Getting ready to split my super c and replace the worn ring gear.
I figured i would replace the clutch as well.
When looking at replacement clutches I see there are two options.
one with a spring disk and one with a solid disk, no springs
what is the difference ?

[Slim140]

The springs help absorb some of the shock.

[Eric85]

Thanks
What about the throw out bearing.
I’m assuming I have the original graphite bearing.
Should I replace it with new what else will I need.
I see there is a throw out bearing carrier and clutch throw out bearing
Do I need both ?
I also see there is new clutches with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?

[outdoors4evr]

I like the theory of "replace it while I am here" but I think there is a new challenge where the new parts aren't always as good (durable) as the originals. I'd plan on replacing the throwout bearing (graphite piece) and get it soaking in oil and cheap grease as soon as possible.

[Slim140]

Thanks
What about the throw out bearing.
I’m assuming I have the original graphite bearing.
Should I replace it with new what else will I need.
I see there is a throw out bearing carrier and clutch throw out bearing
Do I need both ?
I also see there is new clutches with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?

Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing (as far as I know a Cub is the only tractor that uses a graphite bearing), it should be a roller type bearing. If you buy a kit it should come with a clutch disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing, and pilot bushing.

I wouldn't think you would need the carrier, you won't know until you take it apart.

[Jim Becker]

. . . Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing . . .

Actually they did, probably most of them.

[Slim140]

. . . Super C shouldn't have a graphite bearing . . .

Actually they did, probably most of them.

Really? I looked up a replacement and it had no mention of graphite. That is my mistake!

[Jim Becker]

I don't know what is available now. But the parts catalog lists both styles with a ball bearing listed for Hydra-Creeper equipped tractors. The bearing carrier was specific to each style bearing.

[Eric85]

also see there are two clutches available one with wide levers and some with narrow levers which one do I need ?
It looks like what is there now are the wide levers.

[Eric85]

Will I have to worry about engine timing after I get the tractor split ?

Looks like I’ll have to drain the coolant before I can split the tractor. Should I reuse the old coolant, it’s probably 6 or 7 years old
Any other advice/ tips would be appreciated.

[Jim Becker]

Still splitting at the clutch? No concern about engine timing. No need to drain the coolant unless you find I need to replace the freeze plug in the back of the block.

[Eugene]

No need to drain the coolant unless you find I need to replace the freeze plug in the back of the block.

I suggest replacing the freeze plug while you have the tractor split. Couple of bucks. Will save splitting the tractor in the future when the freeze plug gives out.

[Eric85]

Anyone have a part number for the freeze plug. Is there only one plug ?
I assume I can get them at Napa.

[Jim Becker]

It is a conventional 2" plug, should be available at any decent parts store. IH part numbers are 172592 or 23139V. There is also a smaller plug at the back of the camshaft. It will not need replacing.

[Eric85]

Thanks for the replies
How do you get the old freeze plug out and install a new one